robby b Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Some people, both English and non-English, refer to England as a 'big team'. But really we aren't. We want to be one of them, yes, but we aren't one of them. Here's why England aren't a big team... since the 1970s this is England's record in the World Cup knock out rounds against the actual big teams, against previous World Cup winners: played 6 lost 6 (In 86 Argentina, 90 Germany, 98 Argentina, 02 Brazil, 10 Germany, 22 France). With such an awful record since 1970, I've now almost given up hope that this will change in my lifetime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, MCU said: I’m sorry but we were miles better than France We really weren't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, sheepyvillian said: Euros 2004 That was Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 When did we last beat a really good side? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: At least there are no apologies needed for being all in behind Emi now I put money Argentina to win it before it started. I’m sticking with that, even though I know it will result in Emi going missing in Argentina for a month after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted December 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 Did we have a shot on goal? When he brought Saka off I was shocked , he was our most effective player. .........Grealish is a far better player than Rashford or Foden, if you don't see this then I'm not interested in your opinion . Our midfield was dreadful, Rice and Henderson never created anything, great at 2 yards passes and some last ditch tackles but we're against players like Griezmann, we need more from the middle Pickford was middle championship level, first goal was poor from his point of view Southgate yet again has failed us, that 3 tournaments in a row where we have failed to even get close to opposition we should be, imho, beating . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I was screaming for him to bring Maddison on from 70 mins onwards. He would have scored that FK in the 96th minute i'm 100% confident. Bloke is up there with JWP when it comes to set pieces. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) Duplicate post. Edited December 10, 2022 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, sheepyvillian said: It's about having an impact and doing something different. Sterling has come back from a horrible experience and he done nothing. He should have brought Grealish on when the 8 minutes went up. So true if the burglary was as bad as the media have made out an having to rush home, Sterling should have been no where near the team. His head just wouldn't be in it. 100% bad move from Southgate letting his heart rule his head! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The_Steve Posted December 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, sheepyvillian said: Rightly so. What he can bring no one else can. Sterling was absolute gash. Because Gareth has no tactical nouse - he just relies on the players he trusts to bail him out time and time again. The sad thing is, Bellingham would have gotten fewer games if his beloved Kalvin was fit. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, MCU said: Also, all the build up and hype about this player and that player getting called up to the England squad for major comps like this (ie Maddison) what’s the point they don’t get played anyway. The Liverpool right back, honestly, the mind boggles at some of Safegate's decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, robby b said: Some people, both English and non-English, refer to England as a 'big team'. But really we aren't. We want to be one of them, yes, but we aren't one of them. Here's why England aren't a big team... since the 1970s this is England's record in the World Cup knock out rounds against the actual big teams, against previous World Cup winners: played 6 lost 6 (In 86 Argentina, 90 Germany, 98 Argentina, 02 Brazil, 10 Germany, 22 France). With such an awful record since 1970, I've now almost given up hope that this will change in my lifetime. They're the international Aston Villa And I mean that in all seriousness, the parallels are shocking 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Jack just has to come on much earlier, and it's not Villa bias. On another note, can anyone believe Deschamps didn't start Sanson!? Yet another manager who doesn't fancy him. Let's not even get to Guilbert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizzzle Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Oh well in just over 2 weeks we’ll be back to having our hearts broken by Villa every week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, mjmooney said: We really weren't. I only watched the second half, but France did nothing at all (bar their goal - brilliant cross). It was all England. That said, there wasn’t much created from open play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I have been wondering what the criticism everyone would end up agreeing on would be, I didn't for the life of me think it would be 'we'd have won this World cup quarter final against France if only James Ward-Prowse was anchoring the midfield'. Jokes aside, when your main tactic is to play for set pieces, not playing Grealish and not bringing JWP to the tournament just seems kind of counterintuitive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted December 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 For all those right backs he has taken to the WC that was **** worth it. Don't worry, England also beat Iran 6-2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Why did Sterling get bought on after just getting back from changing his locks, surely what's his face should have got on earlier. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: So true if the burglary was as bad as the media have made out an having to rush home, Sterling should have been no where near the team. His head just wouldn't be in it. 100% bad move from Southgate letting his heart rule his head! I agree with this. What does it say to the other players who can't get a kick when this guy misses days of training, flies back in the day before and comes straight back into the team? It's not like he's even in good form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, mjmooney said: We really weren't. We really were. Surprised you weren’t nodding off for it? Bit late for you isn’t it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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