Tom13 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 16 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: In fairness to Diego, he's had a couple of exceptional performances as well as some mares. Players who aren't getting consistent football will blow hot and cold. Hot and cold yeah I agree, but that attempted clearance was bizarre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 1 VT Supporter Share Posted May 1 3 hours ago, randy_69 said: They should all have goofy teeth and curly hair too We don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 16 hours ago, cheltenham_villa said: Our squad has saved us this year, people shouldn't try and dismantle it. Carlos cost us 30m and big wages, you are taking a loss if you sell him and likely paying wages. Prefer he stays and we strengthen. He's being linked with a move to Milan whose wage bill is as high as ours, why would we pay his wages if he moves there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) He’s 31 now with two years left on his contract earning circa 100k a week. His book value will be 15/16 million euros in the summer. Milan don’t seem to have an issue paying circa 20m euros for a player and paying circa 80/90k a week for first teamers. If the opportunity comes to shift him on for circa 20m and replace with a younger better suited aerially dominant option we’d be fools not to. Edited May 1 by DakotaVilla 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 30 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: He’s 31 now with two years left on his contract earning circa 100k a week. His book value will be 15/16 million euros in the summer. Milan don’t seem to have an issue paying circa 20m euros for a player and paying circa 80/90k a week for first teamers. If the opportunity comes to shift him on for circa 20m and replace with a younger better suited aerially dominant option we’d be fools not to. If we're even considering selling him, this is exactly what Emery and Monchi will be looking to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 I'd sell him and bring in Tosin on a free. Newcastle appear to be signing him though that's a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 6 hours ago, duke313 said: He's being linked with a move to Milan whose wage bill is as high as ours, why would we pay his wages if he moves there? I dont understand how people think this makes sense financially. We spent 30m on him, we pay him c120k per week. I'm not sure who is covering that but I doubt Milan will tbh. A replacement costs money and will also earn wages as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, cheltenham_villa said: I dont understand how people think this makes sense financially. We spent 30m on him, we pay him c120k per week. I'm not sure who is covering that but I doubt Milan will tbh. A replacement costs money and will also earn wages as well. So, don’t sell anybody, ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 14 hours ago, duke313 said: So, don’t sell anybody, ever? No, sell when it makes financial sense. Unfortunately some times youve made a bad deal in the past and you have to own it. I dont think we will find a better player than Carlos when you consider how much it will cost us to lose him and how much it will cost for a replacement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 29 minutes ago, cheltenham_villa said: No, sell when it makes financial sense. Unfortunately some times youve made a bad deal in the past and you have to own it. I dont think we will find a better player than Carlos when you consider how much it will cost us to lose him and how much it will cost for a replacement. That's where I'm at too We're potentially selling a perfectly servicable 4th choice CB to bring in another 4th choice CB If it was to buy Kounde who can provide 2 roles and would push to start then fair enough, if it was a youngster who will develop and then push to start then fair enough but if it was say sell Carlos to buy Lenglet then I'd be asking why bother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 16 hours ago, cheltenham_villa said: I dont understand how people think this makes sense financially. We spent 30m on him, we pay him c120k per week. I'm not sure who is covering that but I doubt Milan will tbh. A replacement costs money and will also earn wages as well. Well it depends. IF Milan would pay us £15m transfer fee, then we'd take that as that's the value left on him. We save £120k a week wages, buy a younger kid for around £15m (yes there are deals out there to be had for that price range - see Rogers, Moreno). We might only need to pay the younger player £60k a week and then we develop him over the next 12 months. From Carlos' viewpoint, he moves to Milan where he might not be 4/5th choice. He might accept a lower salary but for a longer contract. When his current contract with Villa finishes at age 33 he might struggle to get another decent contract. So it could make sense for him as well. For Milan, they get a good ready-made player for £15m and say 60k a week wages for the next 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I’d be keen to keep Carlos unless we need to sell for FFP reasons. When you consider he missed most of his first season, this is pretty much his first full season at Villa. He’s had some dodgy moments for sure but he’s also been excellent on many occasions. We need quality in depth and he provides that, along with European experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted May 2 VT Supporter Share Posted May 2 Just show em a video of the Arsenal game and they will be all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I'm no expert on FFP, but if he has £15m of amortized value left, and we sell him for say £20m that would mean an FFP profit of £5m? Doesn't that give us £25m to work with under FFP? We can easily sign a younger 4th choice CB on much less wages for that, it makes perfect financial sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Why is he not playing? I don't get it. Konsa RB, Carlos CB has looked much more solid than anything else all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 14 minutes ago, AndyM3000 said: Why is he not playing? I don't get it. Konsa RB, Carlos CB has looked much more solid than anything else all season. That's how we'll line up v Brighton IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Puzzling Lenget started ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Should have played tonight imo. Very unlucky and puzzling as to why he's been benched since Arsenal when he was MOTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 5 minutes ago, ozvilla28 said: Puzzling Lenget started ahead of him. Simple .Emery likes a Right footed cb / left footed cb combo.Lenglet is cover for Pau so Pau rested means Lenglet comes In. If he rested Konsa or moved Konsa RB then Carlos would come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 This guy can’t be tired and he was utterly useless today. If we can get rid at the end of the season and get a young replacement then we absolutely should. He’s been a real disappointment. I suspect that he will only get worse as age is against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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