HalfTimePost Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 So after all of that. Kamara, Suarez, Tarkowski and an outside shot at Belotti are the only ones I can really see us going for. Grillitsch maybe, but can't see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I’m doubt there’s much truth to it but it wouldn’t surprise me totally. I don’t think Gerrard is sold on Tyrone and obviously won’t have the same affection for him that (most of) the fans have due to being part of the promotion winning team. Could you imagine losing Mings and McGinn in one summer, and only a year after Jack. Not sure I could take that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The_Steve said: We are bullied too easily in this department - it can’t all be done by Mings Precisely. Edited May 19, 2022 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: So whilst much of Gerrards conference was standard fare, the bit about '1 or 2 are close' and the 'free market being quicker' We know there'll be atleast one free agent joining. Or atleast targeted. Here's the top value (Transfermarkt) freebies and what's expected. No Chance (Grey = Confirmed) Mbappe (RM/PSG), Pogba (PSG/Juve), Kessie (Barca confirmed), Rudiger (RM Confirmed), Christensen (Barca Confirmed), Ousmane Dembele (Barca/Chelsea), Romagnoli (Chelsea, Barca), Mazraoui (Bayern Confirmed), Luis Felipe (Betis Confirmed), Di Maria (Juve), Tolisso (Liverpool, RM, Man U), Onana (Inter), Mbemba (Leaving Porto as he's lied about his age) Very Unlikely (but limited links) Dybala, Bernardeschi (Wants to stay at Juve) Optimistic Targets Kamara (Atleti/AVFC), Belotti (Roma/West Ham), Others (links) - Possibilities for us Lacazette (Lyon), Tarkowski (NUFC/AVFC), Lingard (WH, Nufc, AVFC), Denayer (NUFC), Grillitsch (Arsenal) David Brooks Eriksson (Brentford) Anybody else falls.below £11m of Transfermarkt Value, bizarrely including: Luis Suarez (Avfc), Modric (RM Confirmed), Origi (AC Milan), Dybala is staying in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Stupidest transfer rumour in the Mirror - we are going to sell Ty to Newcastle for £35m and bring in Joe Gomez. I know the Mirror is a rag I wouldn't trust to get the date right, but that's not massively far fetched. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: I’m doubt there’s much truth to it but it wouldn’t surprise me totally. I don’t think Gerrard is sold on Tyrone and obviously won’t have the same affection for him that (most of) the fans have due to being part of the promotion winning team. Could you imagine losing Mings and McGinn in one summer, and only a year after Jack. Not sure I could take that. The problem is......Ty has errors in him, he is also shy at scoring goals at set pieces.....nothing like Laursen or Allan Evans. but take him out of the side.....and you see his worth.....we lack real aggression without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I am really dubious that we sign players better than we already have.... but I am open to be surprised, perhaps the links lower the expectation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, TRO said: The problem is......Ty has errors in him, he is also shy at scoring goals at set pieces.....nothing like Laursen or Allan Evans. but take him out of the side.....and you see his worth.....we lack real aggression without him. I also think he’d make a real difference to the Newcastle defence. Hopefully it’s just nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Don’t be surprised if we take Connor Goldson on a free this summer. With Konsa injured until September, no one will take him and that only leaves us with Chambers as right CB. We may put a lot of our money into sorting the midfield, so wouldn’t rule this one out as an option. Connor is a local lad and is desperate to return closer to the Midlands. I see his dad occasionally and several Midlands clubs have shown interest in him previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: I also think he’d make a real difference to the Newcastle defence. Hopefully it’s just nonsense. I think he would.....but they already have some big old units in Burn and Lascelles....not to mention Joelinton in midfield. We in contrast have only one outfield player over 6 feet, so we can't afford to lose him just yet. We need to add some height, not lose it. Edited May 19, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mazrim said: I know the Mirror is a rag I wouldn't trust to get the date right, but that's not massively far fetched. Yep Our captain and England International, who could / should be in line to start at the world cup in November, is worth £35m and Liverpools crocked 5th choice CB / 3rd choice RB is worth roughly the same Nothing to see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I love Mings as a character, and yes, its unthinkable he doesn't play in this current squad, but imagine we have two new centre halves who make less mistakes? Say, Lacroix and Szalai. Would Mings want to be on the bench? Unlikely. He considers himself on the periphery of the England team and is at the stage where he'll feel he has to play regularly. Fair enough. Now, we could use him as CB / LB cover but again, he wouldn't play regularly. Konsa is still young and worth keeping hold of to see if he can get back to his best, when he did indeed look like a top centre half in the making. This is a turbulent time for him and he needs to adjust. So I could envisage seeing Mings move on in this scenario. Gomez is currently where Konsa may be. A player who looked liked like an absolute Rolls Royce until the wheels came off a bit / major injury. Not so long ago Gomez looked like Englands best centre half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Yep Our captain and England International, who could / should be in line to start at the world cup in November, is worth £35m and Liverpools crocked 5th choice CB / 3rd choice RB is worth roughly the same Nothing to see here Also, didn't Howe and Mings fall out at Bournemouth? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted May 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, paul514 said: Yea I get foreign players can be home grown that way, I just find it unbelievable that British nationals wouldn't automatically be homegrown. he was born here but was never on anyone's books therefore not home grown. the clue is in the terminology, he wasn't 'grown' at an english club therefore doesn't meet the criteria. he might not even hold a british passport 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: Don’t be surprised if we take Connor Goldson on a free this summer. With Konsa injured until September, no one will take him and that only leaves us with Chambers as right CB. We may put a lot of our money into sorting the midfield, so wouldn’t rule this one out as an option. Connor is a local lad and is desperate to return closer to the Midlands. I see his dad occasionally and several Midlands clubs have shown interest in him previously. I could see it happening. It would be strength in depth but would he be an improvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steero113 Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: Grillitsch maybe, but can't see it He's gone mate, City paid the buy out... let it go. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: So whilst much of Gerrards conference was standard fare, the bit about '1 or 2 are close' and the 'free market being quicker' We know there'll be atleast one free agent joining. Or atleast targeted. Here's the top value (Transfermarkt) freebies and what's expected. No Chance (Grey = Confirmed) Mbappe (RM/PSG), Pogba (PSG/Juve), Kessie (Barca confirmed), Rudiger (RM Confirmed), Christensen (Barca Confirmed), Ousmane Dembele (Barca/Chelsea), Romagnoli (Chelsea, Barca), Mazraoui (Bayern Confirmed), Luis Felipe (Betis Confirmed), Di Maria (Juve), Tolisso (Liverpool, RM, Man U), Onana (Inter), Mbemba (Leaving Porto as he's lied about his age) Very Unlikely (but limited links) Dybala, Bernardeschi (Wants to stay at Juve) Optimistic Targets Kamara (Atleti/AVFC), Belotti (Roma/West Ham), Others (links) - Possibilities for us Lacazette (Lyon), Tarkowski (NUFC/AVFC), Lingard (WH, Nufc, AVFC), Denayer (NUFC), Grillitsch (Arsenal) David Brooks Eriksson (Brentford) Anybody else falls.below £11m of Transfermarkt Value, bizarrely including: Luis Suarez (Avfc), Modric (RM Confirmed), Origi (AC Milan), There is a handful of players on that list that would be interesting but I fear he is talking about Suarez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: So whilst much of Gerrards conference was standard fare, the bit about '1 or 2 are close' and the 'free market being quicker' We know there'll be atleast one free agent joining. Or atleast targeted. Here's the top value (Transfermarkt) freebies and what's expected. No Chance (Grey = Confirmed) Mbappe (RM/PSG), Pogba (PSG/Juve), Kessie (Barca confirmed), Rudiger (RM Confirmed), Christensen (Barca Confirmed), Ousmane Dembele (Barca/Chelsea), Romagnoli (Chelsea, Barca), Mazraoui (Bayern Confirmed), Luis Felipe (Betis Confirmed), Di Maria (Juve), Tolisso (Liverpool, RM, Man U), Onana (Inter), Mbemba (Leaving Porto as he's lied about his age) Very Unlikely (but limited links) Dybala, Bernardeschi (Wants to stay at Juve) Optimistic Targets Kamara (Atleti/AVFC), Belotti (Roma/West Ham), Others (links) - Possibilities for us Lacazette (Lyon), Tarkowski (NUFC/AVFC), Lingard (WH, Nufc, AVFC), Denayer (NUFC), Grillitsch (Arsenal) David Brooks Eriksson (Brentford) Anybody else falls.below £11m of Transfermarkt Value, bizarrely including: Luis Suarez (Avfc), Modric (RM Confirmed), Origi (AC Milan), I don't think you are allowed to contact players who are in the same League until the end of the season. So you should exclude other Prem players from the "are a few pieces not too far away" statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: I could see it happening. It would be strength in depth but would he be an improvement? I don’t think he would be an upgrade on Konsa or Chambers from what I’ve seen but Gerrard has worked with him, so he’ll know better than most if he’s worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: I’m doubt there’s much truth to it but it wouldn’t surprise me totally. I don’t think Gerrard is sold on Tyrone and obviously won’t have the same affection for him that (most of) the fans have due to being part of the promotion winning team. Could you imagine losing Mings and McGinn in one summer, and only a year after Jack. Not sure I could take that. I could imagine losing both...... I'd even advocate for it if they brought a good replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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