hippo Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, RichiBoi11 said: You are correct, as per the below from Fifa: From 1 July, clubs will only be able to have eight players loaned out and eight loaned in during a season. That number will go down to seven from July 2023 and will reduce again to six from July 2024. The cap does not apply to players aged 21 and under, or players who are “club trained” – so those who have been with either their current club or another in the same national association for at least three years between the ages of 15-21. These are usually referred to in the Premier League as “homegrown” players. So effectively - its a rule with so many exceptions - that it really doesn't change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, RichiBoi11 said: You are correct, as per the below from Fifa: From 1 July, clubs will only be able to have eight players loaned out and eight loaned in during a season. That number will go down to seven from July 2023 and will reduce again to six from July 2024. The cap does not apply to players aged 21 and under, or players who are “club trained” – so those who have been with either their current club or another in the same national association for at least three years between the ages of 15-21. These are usually referred to in the Premier League as “homegrown” players. So you can buy a brazilian aged 18, send him out on loan each year for 3 years, then still send him out on loan aged 22 for the rest of his career as a home grown player and none of that would count towards the loan limit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ender4 said: 6 loans would be: Wesley Guilbert Trez El Ghazi Kalinic Hause Sanson & Traore to stay as part of the squad. Still leaves us with 2 loan spaces if we don't count U21's? Trez is being sold by all accounts, so still 3 spare with that approach. If we're planning to loan out all those, and Sanson and Traore to see them get match fitness, I assume we'd be buying at least 3 more. Can't see us doing that, so I agree we'll probably keep Traore, Bailey, and Sanson around as our backups. Not even close to hitting the 8 loan limit. Edited June 20, 2022 by MrBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: This is hardly going to stop clubs like Chelsea hoarding all the top youngsters then loaning them out. No but means cant keep a load on the books who are worthless. Saw they released a guy called Clarke Salter, 24 years old one Chelsea appearance 6 loans Chelsea appearance was against us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 The new rule of only being able to loan out eight players, doesn't apply to players under the age of 21, or homegrown players, which I think is defined as a player that has spent three years at the club between the ages of 15 and 21. So all our youngsters could in theory be loaned out and we could still loan out another eight of our players that are older than 21 if we wished. The point of the ruling is to stop clubs from hoarding players that are first team ready, because that can block the pathway to the first team for younger players, so wouldn't make sense to limit U21 loans as one of the main points of the ruling is to help them get more playing time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Bogarde for example doesn't count as home grown so loaning him out counts towards our limit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, hippo said: So effectively - its a rule with so many exceptions - that it really doesn't change anything. Look, this isn’t about the rule, it’s about the fact that Gregg is so bad at his job he’s making definitive claims about Villa’s plans based on a total misunderstanding of the rule Or, I suppose, he’s on the money and his top sources at the club don’t know the rule 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CarryOnVilla Posted June 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Bogarde is U21 so he wouldn't count towards the limit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 U21 players dont' count towards the limit regardless The 'home grown' rule is for players above the age of 21, they can still be loaned out without counting towards the limit if they spent three years with the club between the ages of 15 and 21, so someone like Conor Gallager at Chelsea could still be loan out by Chelsea next season, and it wouldn't count towards the eight player limit, because he's homegrown by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 38 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: This seems very much like a briefing from the club that Phil McNulty is reporting on, which to me suggests that a (well deserved) holiday week is over for Lange & Co. and it's back to recruitment work before Pre-Season starts in exactly two weeks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IrishVilla10 Posted June 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2022 Get zinchenko 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: Get zinchenko Zinchenko would be an interesting one. He’d naturally fit our system as a central midfielder, especially as he can tuck in when Digne goes forward… Not seen all that much of him though tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Zinchenko would be an interesting one. He’d naturally fit our system as a central midfielder, especially as he can tuck in when Digne goes forward… Not seen all that much of him though tbh. I think it would be a brilliant signing. JJ would have to move out to the right though but I don’t think that’s an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said: Zinchenko would be an interesting one. He’d naturally fit our system as a central midfielder, especially as he can tuck in when Digne goes forward… Not seen all that much of him though tbh. Also, very good at set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Not sure he'd be worth the £35m+ City will want. Fills a few different positions which is handy, but I don't think he's a game changer for us really. I'd like a new record signing to come in a step above what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I like Zinchenko, but Im not sure squad players at £30m+ are where we are yet... Plus, Id be annoyed we helped City with FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, StewieGriffin said: I like Zinchenko, but Im not sure squad players at £30m+ are where we are yet... Plus, Id be annoyed we helped City with FFP. Squad player? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 In no way questioning his attitude or professionalism but you'd have to wonder if Zinchenko will be able to be 100% focused on football considering what is happening in his homeland. Must be going through he** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, a m ole said: Squad player? Competition for Zinchenko. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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