messi11 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, theboyangel said: But yet to land anything substantial… Wonder why they don't want Bentancur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJay Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, messi11 said: Wonder why they don't want Bentancur Eddie Howe's nephew scouted him on juvetalk and said nah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, VillaJay said: Eddie Howe's nephew scouted him on juvetalk and said nah geordielad21? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 As many have said before, the sorts of players who will agree to go to Newcastle in their current state are not the right personalities for us. Utter mercenaries. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Moustache of Teale Posted January 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, messi11 said: Wonder why they don't want Bentancur I wouldn’t use that as a yardstick of how good he is. Newcastle’s transfer strategy this window has been akin to a male baboon strutting round with a glowing red arse trying to go for literally anything that moves. They may have some cash but they’re a shambles. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJay Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: geordielad21? Eddie Howe has hired his nephew in a recruitment role at newcastle, he previously worked at Bournemouth as their u8's coach, and I am not joking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) We should match the Newcastle bid for Bruno guimaeres just to raise the price. Edited January 25, 2022 by AshVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, messi11 said: Wonder why they don't want Bentancur Obviously read your in-depth analysis of him 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, AshVilla said: We should match the Newcastle bid for Bruno guimaeres just to raise the price. Or he might choose Villa, which wouldn’t be a disaster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, PieFacE said: This one little statement could mean 2 separate extreme outcomes. Close the thread or the deal is close? Or that Josh knows **** all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, messi11 said: Wonder why they don't want Bentancur Newcastle famously get it right. That's why they're ace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 If you met a guy (or gal) in a pub and they told you they’d NEVER seen Villa play but had a quick scan of VT and then gave you their opinions of Villa players you wouldn’t sit their and take their views seriously would you? I get that looking at fans views of a sale is interesting but it’s one small data point. And some people give that data point WAY too much weight IMO. Any signing is a risk, he may do great here, he may not but he’s clearly got the pedigree to be a hit for us. Essentially it’s down to him as an individual and our coaching team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) Well a loan sounds a lot better! I would 100% take him on loan. Try before you buy. Keep the receipt mind. Seems the price is getting higher and higher everyday Edited January 25, 2022 by messi11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 Wouldn’t mind it being a loan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, AntrimBlack said: Or that Josh knows **** all. joshilad11?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Loan makes no sense unless it has a buy clause like with Coutinho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Can it even be a loan. There was talk that we'd already used our quota of loans up for the season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, messi11 said: Well a loan sounds a lot better! I would 100% take him on loan. Try before you buy. Keep the receipt mind. Seems the price is getting higher and higher everyday What happened to 16m. It was the only enticing thing about the transfer for me the value aspect. If 25/30m figures are being touted i think we can do better at that price bracket and should pay the extra for Bissouma or even Guimaraes. Edited January 25, 2022 by AshVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) Loan with an option to buy? Now we are talking. If so I'm no longer against it. My main hesitation is that I don't think he is an upgrade on Luiz, and as Luiz's value is about 50% higher, that suggets to be the case also with a neutral view. I thought we now wanted to improve our first team and that would mean we should shop in the £40M market, not in the £15M market. But a loan puts in into a whole other perpective, perhaps he is just not a good fit for Juve at this moment and can kick on at Villa. I doubt it, but would gladly take the chance, at least if we can't get anyone else in. I haven't been impressed by him, and I don't see him as an out and out defensive midfielder. What Allegri said about him not being able to play in front of the defence as he takes too much time on the ball is very concerning. Especially given that the tempo in the PL is so much higher. A defensive midfielder needs to be reliable first and foremost. We can't have a wild card there, and Bentencour seems to be just that. We have two wild cards in Traoré and Baiily, that's ok for the attacking positions, but not in our own half. A close friend who is a Juve fan and seen about all Juve games for the last 20 years has quite strong opinions on him (ok yes now I sound a bit like villalad21 when I made fun of "what Lyon fans think" about Traoré, but this is more of a in depth view from a since long time Juve fan whose opinion I trust ). Anyway he would be very glad for Bentencur to go and has wanted him out for a long time, patience has run out. Allegedly he can be really good at times, but lets the team down with headless passes, trade mark being a blind back pass to the opponents attackers (this corresponds quite well with what Allegri has said), he also blamed last seaons exit of the CL by Porto on Bentencur's mistake. And said it happens over and over again. I haven't seen many players having you tube videos with compiliations of their bad passing, so it seems credible. He isn't too fond of McKennie either, but would much rather keep him, different kind of players, but McKennie runs like a dog and pops up with goals. Bentancur he never knows when he will show up and what he will get. Now it is of course not fully fair to compare with the standards of Juve, and their fans are of course more demanding, it says quite much of how far we have come when we don't get all excited by perhaps buying a Juve player. And the fact is that he has played quite a lot for them over the last years despite being only 24, and in a title winning team with Champions League title demands. Despite that, I dont see him as a good fit for us right now. But if it's on loan, no problem, welcome here! Edited January 25, 2022 by Keener window-cleaner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, messi11 said: Well a loan sounds a lot better! I would 100% take him on loan. Try before you buy. Keep the receipt mind. Seems the price is getting higher and higher everyday Complete bull ! We cannot sign another player on loan - FACT ! Edited January 25, 2022 by thabucks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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