Popular Post Ghost Posted November 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2023 Congratulations to Vissel Kobe. J-League Champions! 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sharkyvilla Posted November 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2023 I hope there won't be any eligibility issues when we both qualify for the 2029 club world cup. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 09/11/2023 at 00:17, MaVilla said: blimey. so we are late to the game, and the game just got banned I'm pretty sure that Villa voted in favour of banning loans into the PL between clubs that have some kind of ownership link (according to the list the BBC reported the other day). Which suggests that either (a) we are specifically worried about Newcastle exploiting this "loophole" in January or (b) we aren't looking to create an exploitative model whereby we can dodge FFP rules through V-Sports partnerships. The way that we've announced links in the past have always suggested that there will be upsides to all clubs and that all clubs will be able to benefit from the relationship moving forwards. I might be being a bit naive / optimistic in the ethical intentions of our owners. But I have definitely read into this that we are trying to doing things the right way and this isn't just a glorified pyramid scheme to only benefit Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On a slightly different tack - does anyone know whether the club shop are selling kits / merchandise from other clubs in the V-Sports network? I couldn't find anything on the on-line store. I'd definitely be interested in buying something - just as I would hope that maybe Zed supporters might be tempted to buy a Villa kit. I don't suppose that either will revolutionise the finances of any clubs but it would still be a nice way to start raising profiles in other countries. Is there any restriction from Fanatics involved in this (as I think I read that they get the profits from shirt sales as part of their deal with the club)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 25, 2023 Administrator Share Posted November 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, allani said: On a slightly different tack - does anyone know whether the club shop are selling kits / merchandise from other clubs in the V-Sports network? I couldn't find anything on the on-line store. I'd definitely be interested in buying something - just as I would hope that maybe Zed supporters might be tempted to buy a Villa kit. I don't suppose that either will revolutionise the finances of any clubs but it would still be a nice way to start raising profiles in other countries. Is there any restriction from Fanatics involved in this (as I think I read that they get the profits from shirt sales as part of their deal with the club)? Unlikely. I don't think that the club run the shop. Might be one to get OBE to ask at the next meeting for when the are looking at whatever comes next for the club shop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 3 hours ago, allani said: I'm pretty sure that Villa voted in favour of banning loans into the PL between clubs that have some kind of ownership link (according to the list the BBC reported the other day). Which suggests that either (a) we are specifically worried about Newcastle exploiting this "loophole" in January or (b) we aren't looking to create an exploitative model whereby we can dodge FFP rules through V-Sports partnerships. The way that we've announced links in the past have always suggested that there will be upsides to all clubs and that all clubs will be able to benefit from the relationship moving forwards. I might be being a bit naive / optimistic in the ethical intentions of our owners. But I have definitely read into this that we are trying to doing things the right way and this isn't just a glorified pyramid scheme to only benefit Villa. I think the Newcastle (possibly Chelsea, knowing their sketchy owenership) situation is different to almost all other examples in that the other teams that clubs link up with don't have the financial clout of the Saudi teams where they can buy top class talent willy-nilly, or have FFP in their own league to contend with. I can't see us getting Vissel Kobe or Vitoria to buy a £40m+ PL player and sending them to us really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 4 hours ago, limpid said: Unlikely. I don't think that the club run the shop. Might be one to get OBE to ask at the next meeting for when the are looking at whatever comes next for the club shop. Am I completely imagining them selling some browns gear when Lerner owned us? It would be about right that most seasons you cant get villa stuff in M but I'd have no problem getting a vissel kobe shirt from them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 25, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 25, 2023 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: Am I completely imagining them selling some browns gear when Lerner owned us? I think you're right - but Fanatics make all the NFL gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Honestly can't see myself starting to support or care about a bunch of new clubs just because our owners owns them too or because we are affiliated with them. That's not how my interest for football and sports work. Vissel Kobe start selling Villa merch in their store? Great, more exposure for us in a new market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 44 minutes ago, sne said: Honestly can't see myself starting to support or care about a bunch of new clubs just because our owners owns them too or because we are affiliated with them. That's not how my interest for football and sports work. Vissel Kobe start selling Villa merch in their store? Great, more exposure for us in a new market. Same, 20 years ago I would but my interest in non villa football has died off Other than friendlies vs them (no Vegas team is a shame obviously) I'm not that bothered 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Demitri_C Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Another potential exciting partnership We need one in south america me thinks next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Even the pattern on their shirt is AV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmix Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Real Union is owned by Unai Emery's family. I think Unai's been the actual owner since his dad passed away. Further strengthening his ties within our club. He ain't going anywhere anytime soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 If for nothing else that it ties the Don down it's a great move, our owners aren't daft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Great move for all concerned, Villa family and hopefully Emery is here long-term. How about a pre-season tournament with Real Unión, Vissel Kobe, ZED FC and Vitória Sport Clube? Don't we have a good relationship with Bayer Leverkusen, possibly invite them too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Good that this strengthens ties with Unai but just hopefully there is no financial fair play shenanigans when it comes to his renumeration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Great move for all concerned, Villa family and hopefully Emery is here long-term. How about a pre-season tournament with Real Unión, Vissel Kobe, ZED FC and Vitória Sport Clube? Don't we have a good relationship with Bayer Leverkusen, possibly invite them too? Great move for all concerned. As for preseason, we should do what’s best for the squad not a family get together tournament if that’s not best. Preparing best for the season is all that matters, if that’s a family tournament then fine but if not then don’t do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: Good that this strengthens ties with Unai but just hopefully there is no financial fair play shenanigans when it comes to his renumeration. If it’s within the rules then we should take advantage because we need every advantage. If it’s in the rules I reiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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