villa4europe Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, MotoMkali said: The idea seems to be the top end guys come to us but in exchange these other clubs end up with more of the next rung down of players because of that connection. That's how I see it too The top 5 talents in Egypt have an offer from Zed and an offer from zamalek, zamalek are a bigger team so of course they will join them... But now Zed not only have good facilities as villa have helped them invest but they have a proven route to the PL that zamalek don't In reality maybe 1 of those 5 make it to Villa, the other 4 break through at Zed, in theory we get the cream but zed still get a worthwhile benefit, we both win 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted October 30, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2023 Good to see the Zed academy team at Villa Park on Sunday - all in their tracksuits and clearly enjoying a visit to Villa Park - their faces when the first Hi-Ho Aston Villa went up were a picture! Hope they had a great time - and great to see the club fostering dreams - perhaps one of them will be back as a player. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wishywashy Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 Looks like Real Union, which Emery owns (and is controlled by his brother), is entering the V Sports network. Basque club in the third tier of Spanish football. https://www.noticiasdegipuzkoa.eus/futbol/2023/11/06/aston-villa-ultima-entrada-real-union-7477648.html Quote Intense hours at the Stadium Gal. Two and a half years after coach Unai Emery acquired a majority stake in Real Unión , the Irundarra club is about to enter the business group that owns Aston Villa , an English Premier League squad coached by the Hondarribiarra coach himself. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, wishywashy said: Looks like Real Union, which Emery owns (and is controlled by his brother), is entering the V Sports network. Basque club in the third tier of Spanish football. https://www.noticiasdegipuzkoa.eus/futbol/2023/11/06/aston-villa-ultima-entrada-real-union-7477648.html thats very interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 This IMO is very exciting news for us and obviously Real Union as well as if it gives us a shot at young Basque talent and them the chance to learn and grow. That’s now Senegal via the academy Egypt, Portugal, Japan via the Vissel Kobe strategic link up and now Spain. just the MLS & then South America next please and we will have a foothold across the globe for the best emerging talent. Cue the usual moaners yearning for a bygone era. … 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeyAnty Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, thabucks said: This IMO is very exciting news for us and obviously Real Union as well as if it gives us a shot at young Basque talent and them the chance to learn and grow. That’s now Senegal via the academy Egypt, Portugal, Japan via the Vissel Kobe strategic link up and now Spain. just the MLS & then South America next please and we will have a foothold across the globe for the best emerging talent. Cue the usual moaners yearning for a bygone era. … Might tie in Emery as well for a while 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Great news. That means unai ia here for the long term 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) It seems like they've been quite closely tied to Real Sociedad over the years but they're ending this affiliation to join the V Sports network. No suggestion whether it's a partnership or a stake, although I'd presume it'd be the former Edited November 7, 2023 by wishywashy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Anyone else think this is a bit dodgy? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted November 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rich192 said: Anyone else think this is a bit dodgy? Yup. Clubs owning other clubs is one of many parts about modern football that I dislike. Other clubs do it so we can too, but it does mean we are "one of them" now. As for this particular deal it feels like doing Emery a favor which I'm fine with. Love the guy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tomaszk Posted November 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Rich192 said: Anyone else think this is a bit dodgy? The concept should have been banned when it first started becoming commonplace over partnership between clubs. Horse bolted years ago. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) There are many things about professional football I loathe, but having partnerships with other clubs around the world, is, in principle, one I struggle to see too much wrong with, like fundamentally it doesn't seem much different to I dunno, 'twinned' cities having exchange programmes, or business' working together for mutually beneficial outcomes. It's been around for a while. Obviously with all the money in football, there are power imbalance concerns, and I think it does need to be monitored and regulated to prevent the kind of exploitation or nonsense with Watford. Like, a maximum number of players in a connected group being part of either the youth team or first set up at clubs for example. Edited November 7, 2023 by Rodders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Rodders said: There are many things about professional football I loathe, but having partnerships with other clubs around the world, is, in principle, one I struggle to see too much wrong with, like fundamentally it doesn't seem much different to I dunno, 'twinned' cities having exchange programmes, or business' working together for mutually beneficial outcomes. It's been around for a while. Obviously with all the money in football, there are power imbalance concerns, and I think it does need to be monitored and regulated to prevent the kind of exploitation or nonsense with Watford. Like, a maximum number of players in a connected group being part of either the youth team or first set up at clubs for example. Because it's not partnership. That, I think is fair enough. It's the same ownership. Man City own 12 or whatever clubs. If they want to knock down their stadiums and build a Manchester City academy, then can. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Now I see it’s a partnership and us not buying them, I see less of an issue. As you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted November 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) Just googled Real Union and its quite amusing to see they are quite identical to us in their own league table. They dont like to draw either Oh and if I get the latest FM, i know who I will start my career with. Edited November 7, 2023 by HongKongVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Because it's not partnership. That, I think is fair enough. It's the same ownership. Man City own 12 or whatever clubs. If they want to knock down their stadiums and build a Manchester City academy, then can. This. It's not even close to a "partnership". Are we going to give Real Union or Zed FC first option on Moussa Diaby? Maybe. Would Pau Torres ever in a billion years to there? No. This is a takeover disguised as "learning from each other". However, as rightly said by others, everyone is doing it and if we have to do it to keep up, I guess, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Don_Simon said: This is a takeover disguised as "learning from each other". It really isn't. There isn't a financial transaction for a start. No owner in their right mind is going to just give up control of their asset without a serous financial investment. There would also be an obligation to publically announce any change in ownership, as happened with Vitoria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: It really isn't. There isn't a financial transaction for a start. No owner in their right mind is going to just give up control of their asset without a serous financial investment. There would also be an obligation to publically announce any change in ownership, as happened with Vitoria. Disagree. On we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Made In Aston said: It really isn't. There isn't a financial transaction for a start. No owner in their right mind is going to just give up control of their asset without a serous financial investment. There would also be an obligation to publically announce any change in ownership, as happened with Vitoria. Definitely a financial transaction. Seriously what benefit for them to be in the partnership without it being financial We are No different to the City model. If Newcastle were doing similar then would be uproar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I got no issues with this. Seems to benefit everybody involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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