Taxahunter Posted November 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2021 50 minutes ago, lexicon said: Why? He's not proven himself at all at club level and international football is a different kettle of fish. A massive no from me. Can You all do yourself a favour and fact check before commenting on things you don't know anything about. See my post on page 70 The team he won the league with had an avarage age about 22-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Keeping in mind, if it does go tits up then Gerrard can kiss the Liverpool job goodbye too. Exactly! I'm not writing him off because his cult of personality which some seem to be the same with Terry before he signed for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 57 minutes ago, lexicon said: RH - 36.22% win rate and has lost 2 games 9-0. I don't see why we'd want to pay compensation for him. Potter - 28.3% win rate at Brighton. Sure, Brighton aren't a great team, but that's still very low. I wouldn't say either have proven themselves at this level, certainly no more than Smith. Lambert had 29.6 win rate at Villa in comparison and wasn't backed as much as Potter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Muzzvill 1965 said: Sorry bud must have posted in wrong place was on about Sampaolli Led Sevilla to 4th too and could have won the title but for a blip at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Taxahunter said: Can You all do yourself a favour and fact check before commenting on things you don't know anything about. See my post on page 70 The team he won the league with had an avarage age about 22-23 Which one was that, the team 10 years ago or the team 15 years ago? In Denmark. That is not proving yourself at the standard we require. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: Gerrard didn't end Celtics dominance. Celtic did that by hiring Neil Lennon. Rangers have done OK in Europe but havent beaten a team from a msjor league. Best team they best were Porto in a group game He was also helped by major investment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hong0311 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mister_a said: No fish puns and no commentary on the beard status of new managerial suggestions. I'm disappointed VT. We are still mourning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, nick76 said: Like this? No doubt players might be shitting themselves Nick. He takes no prisoners in coaching and he will get us playing. You just need to look at how he has handled Alfredo Morales at Rangers to see his man management skills. Between keeping Morales tied to the club and also dealing with his huge disciplin issues, he's got what it takes to succeed. It's a win win situation in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2021 Martinez is a constructed entity. He got praise for making a Wigan side play decent football and just about staying up for a few seasons. Everything he's done since has underwhelmed. No thanks. The Danish manager shouldn't even be in the conversation. Ten Hag isn't happening. He'll go to Manchester United in the summer. Sampaolli I'm not sure will fit the structures and... image... we have now. Would be an interesting ride while it lasted though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Ambitious must mean that they at least talk to Unai Emery. That would be real improvment unlike most of the other names mentioned that are sideways move. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: The more I think about it the more I’d like us to try and get Erik ten Hag. He's one of the standout manager/head coaches in Europe at the moment. I don't think with our owners he should be thought of as out of our range. We need to make a statement managerial signing imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Maybe so. If it all comes off as a success, then Purslow would have pulled off a masterstroke. If it did go tits up then no doubt Purslow's position is questioned and Stevie G is sacked. Keeping in mind, if it does go tits up then Gerrard can kiss the Liverpool job goodbye too. I follow the SPL and Gerrard is no mug when it comes to fan pressure. From what I have seen so far from him in management with an average team he shouldn't be underestimated imo. But fans need to get behind the project and give him adequate time to get this group of players going and maybe add a few additions in January if he sees fit. Average team. Rangers threw the kitchen sink to stop 10 in a row and posted 23m in loses on Friday because of it. On top of that Celtic sold anything of value that wasn’t nailed down and had an idiot as Lennon at the helm. Gerard may or may not be a good manager but he has proven very little. Id rather we go with alot more experience than taking this gamble 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, lexicon said: RH - 36.22% win rate and has lost 2 games 9-0. I don't see why we'd want to pay compensation for him. Potter - 28.3% win rate at Brighton. Sure, Brighton aren't a great team, but that's still very low. I wouldn't say either have proven themselves at this level, certainly no more than Smith. In defence of Potter, that win rate doesn't tell the whole story. His loss % at Brighton (36%) is better than Smith's at Villa (40%) so if we are wanting someone to stop a run of defeats he looks a pretty good option. Their issue has been scoring, meaning a lot of draws, but XG tables suggest that's not because they haven't created chances, with them being 13th in 19/20 (15th in actual table) and 5th in 20/21 (16th in actual table). So far this season they are 7th with only 2 defeats, though weirdly are now overperforming XG which would have them 11th in the table. Hassenhuttl I'm less fussed on, but tbf his win rate is better than I thought given that, like Smith, his Southampton team seem to have had terrible luck with injuries this year. Still, he doesn't feel like an upgrade on Smith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Martinez has turned us down a couple of times in the past and I doubt if he would come to us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I don't really understand how many of your who are disappointed we haven't got a replacement ready expected this might go. Assume that Smith was on thin ice 3 weeks ago - would you be happy with our ownership speaking with a top manager, behind Smith's back, and expect them to leave a solid team that they are successful in and drop everything just in case something bad happens with Smith? A good, successful manager (currently employed) is fully committed to their club and works on the next game. They won't be half arsed about it, and won't shop around just in case Aston Villa decide to pull the trigger. Of course, our ownership should have a list of possible candidates, but it's unreasonable to expect that Franck Haise drops Lens to join Aston Villa, or that Vincenzo Italiano leaves Fiorentina to join Aston Villa. Those managers are not sitting there waiting from Smith to get the sack. These things might take a few weeks to come to fruition, and thank God we did it in the international break to give us a bit of a breathing space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chindie said: Martinez is a constructed entity. He got praise for making a Wigan side play decent football and just about staying up for a few seasons. Everything he's done since has underwhelmed. No thanks. The Danish manager shouldn't even be in the conversation. Ten Hag isn't happening. He'll go to Manchester United in the summer. Sampaolli I'm not sure will fit the structures and... image... we have now. Would be an interesting ride while it lasted though. All the Everton fans call Martinez Bobby Bluffer. Says enough to me to stay away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 AVB is top of my list. Martinez is at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, pas5898 said: Gerrard SPL is league 1 calibre football. If we does well, the second Klopp leaves (2 years) he is off, we rebuild again. You could say the SPL is like league one if you take out Rangers and Celtic. Listen, If he does well then it will also mean Villa are in a great position to warrant Liverpool taking him on as their manager given their expectations and his connection etc. If that be the case, we will equally be in a great position as a club to be able to attract a manager like Conte when that time comes. As I've said, it's a win win scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, John said: Martinez has turned us down a couple of times in the past and I doubt if he would come to us now. He's also managing the best national side in the world (on paper) and has won a grand total of fook all with them over the past 5 years. After they crash out of the WC next year, he'll be sacked. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Martinez or Gerrard will get us relegated 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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