Tomaszk Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 29 minutes ago, omariqy said: We are not going down ffs Too close for comfort though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 hours ago, useless said: This what I would say if I was trying to trick people into worrying that we could be relegated Wake up, wake up, if Everton win next week at home to stuttering Chelsea, and Burnley beat lowly Watford, and we lose as it may well be written in the stars to Dean Smith's Norwich then we will be just five points clear of relegation with five games to play, two of those against Man City and Liverpool, another two against Burnley giving them a chance to close the gap, we can't allow ourselves to think we're already safe and in doing so sleepwalk into relegation. I think we get at least another ten points You've actually given me the shakes.... By accident, with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Not worried about this season, but we could well be like Everton next season. On paper Everton are easily a top-half side. Quite shocking they are in a relegation scrap. We can't be complacent going into next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I look at the fixtures next weekend Southampton play Palace, and Brentford are away to Man Utd, so as long as we beat Norwich we will go above two of those whilst still having games in hand on them, also Newcastle play Liverpool and Brighton are away to Wolves, so a win next weekend could well see us close the gap on those and again we would still have games in hand on them. As for the teams below us Everton have to play Chelsea, Everton aren't bad at home, but Chelsea have the second best away record in the league, so Chelsea favorites. Burnley play Watford away, wouldn't be a major surprise to me if Burnley went and lost that, they aren't going to keep winning. Leeds play Palace tonight, after which we will have a game in hand no matter what and they then play Man City at the weekend. Obviously every result isn't going to conveniently go our way, but as long as we beat Norwich then good chance the table will be looking a lot better, not just in terms of below us, but looking up the table as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted April 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Too close for comfort though. it's not even going to be close 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 No one genuinely believes that we're in any danger, would take the most improbable set of results that it's barely worth worrying about, we could not get another point and would still have a very good chance of staying up, as it is I know people like to be dramatic but we aren't just going to not win another game or not get any more points, we should get a decent haul from Palace, Norwich, and Burnley home and away. Some obviously trying to overplay the prospects of relegation as part of their agenda against Gerrard, ignoring the fact that the reason we are where we are is because of the bad start to the season we had before he was even our manager. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, tomav84 said: it's not even going to be close It depends what is close though. I think if we are within 10 points its a dismal season considering the gap we had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Zatman said: It depends what is close though. I think if we are within 10 points its a dismal season considering the gap we had If we end up 10 points clear, that’s at least an improvement on the 2 point gap Deano left us with when he crashed out in November. I agree it’s been a mediocre season and we need much better from Gerrard next time, but it would be wrong to underplay the shambles he took over and the dire position Smith had led us into. Edited April 25, 2022 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 minute ago, briny_ear said: If we end up 10 points clear, that’s at least an improvement on the 2 point gap Delano left us with when he crashed out in November. I agree it’s been a mediocre season and we need much better from Gerrard next time, but it would be wrong to underplay the shambles he took over and the dire position Smith had led us into. It's more than a touch misleading to be comparing 2 points clear after 9 or 10 games, with 10 points clear after 38 games. At that point, Man Utd were only 9 points above the relegation zone, Spurs only 8. Your broader point that the club was a mess when Gerrard took over is more reasonable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 35 minutes ago, useless said: Some obviously trying to overplay the prospects of relegation as part of their agenda against Gerrard, ignoring the fact that the reason we are where we are is because of the bad start to the season we had before he was even our manager. I agree with the first paragraph but I’m not sure I agree with this second paragraph, we are in this position because of the start of the season AND the last 15 games under Gerrard which with gained 15 points. 15 games is getting close to half a season, so Gerrard gets as much of the blame as Smith. Arguably the new manager bounce of 12 points in six games saved us from fighting relegation because runrate would have us close to 6 points from those games and six points less now and we would’ve been looking over our shoulders now. Smith and Gerrard both take blame for this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted April 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2022 There’s been a bit of “Why are people posting in this thread? I wish people would stop bumping this thread” type talk in here. Always find it an interesting tactic deployed by those who don’t want to see it being discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Place Team PTS GP GD Next Match Relegation Probability 15. Aston Villa 37 32 -4 vs. NOR, Apr. 30 <1% 16. Leeds United 33 32 -30 @ CRY, Apr. 25 18% 17. Burnley 31 33 -16 @ WAT, Apr. 30 27% 18.* Everton 29 32 -21 vs. CHE, May 1 55% 19.* Watford 22 33 -36 vs. BUR, Apr. 30 >99% 20.* Norwich City 21 33 -47 @ AVL, Apr. 30 >99% https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/premier-league-promotion-relegation-favorites-odds-races-championship/dcjx93b7rq5z8qdvm3kvocb4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, nick76 said: I agree with the first paragraph but I’m not sure I agree with this second paragraph, we are in this position because of the start of the season AND the last 15 games under Gerrard which with gained 15 points. 15 games is getting close to half a season, so Gerrard gets as much of the blame as Smith. Arguably the new manager bounce of 12 points in six games saved us from fighting relegation because runrate would have us close to 6 points from those games and six points less now and we would’ve been looking over our shoulders now. Smith and Gerrard both take blame for this season. Norwich game will mean Gerrard has managed double the league games as Smith has for Villa this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 It's more likely we finish tenth looking at our games to play and those around us. Well, I'm hoping for a good finish to the season. Ever the optimist.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: It's more likely we finish tenth looking at our games to play and those around us. Well, I'm hoping for a good finish to the season. Ever the optimist.... I expect us to get at least 9 points from the last 6 games. We should beat Palace and Norwich and win at least one of the Burnley games Where that leaves us I am not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 What a year - can’t believe we got relegated and Matt Targett won the golden boot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted April 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Burnley level with us if they beat us twice. Great. Good show everyone. If that happens it's only fair that we go down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 A quick look at the goal differences indicates that we will stay up. The bottom five are there because none of them can defend. I know we lost 4 nil the other week but that was a bit of a aberration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: A quick look at the goal differences indicates that we will stay up. The bottom five are there because none of them can defend. I know we lost 4 nil the other week but that was a bit of a aberration. Yep. We’ve lost too many games by small margins but thankfully didn’t get embarrassed as often as say Leeds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted April 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Zatman said: It depends what is close though. I think if we are within 10 points its a dismal season considering the gap we had do you think 10 points clear of relegation is 'close' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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