Steero113 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: The Norwich and Burnley games are played in a weekly round of games then our first game in hand is played I'm purely referencing that we have played 32 games and those mentioned have played 34. Three of those games are shite teams that we really should be battering, Burnley worry me however because they've been buoyed by two scrapping wins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Lets put this shit to bed on Saturday and absolutely hammer Norwich and bring a feelgood factor back for the trip to the brick munchers. It would be so nice to finish the season with four wins out of six after the season we’ve had. I don’t see it but damn it would be nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I think Wolves especially are in a precarious position, they've been selling their best players and haven't been reinvesting much, talk that their owners are losing interest, they may well lose a few more this summer as likely will have to sell again to buy, and if you look at the past three or four transfer windows their signings haven't been making a massive impact, something their fans have been moaning about. Lage massively overachieved with them this season, was actually having their best season Premier League season up until a few results ago, and that with what's probably easily their weakes squad since promotion, but can see it all catching up with them next season, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 minute ago, nick76 said: It would be so nice to finish the season with four wins out of six after the season we’ve had. I don’t see it but damn it would be nice. Norwich capitulate so hard away from home when they concede first. I feel like an early goal for us on Saturday would see us hammering them as we have been due one (cough... Spurs) for a while now with the chances we've been spurning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: I can easily see both Wolves and West Ham finish below 10th next season which leaves a couple of spots higher up for others. Midtable teams are unpredictable and those two don't have great squads. I don’t, I think those teams will be around the same places. I like the West Ham squad, if they get another striker in they have a good balance but just depends on what happens with Rice. We need to forget about other teams falling and start doing it ourselves. We have to target 55-60 points next season and that should land us in a good place whatever others do or don’t do. If we don’t do that it doesn’t matter about the other teams, we just need to take care of our own business. Edited April 25, 2022 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) The defeats have really hammered us. I mean no way with this squad should we lose 17 games. Even if 5 of those were draws we could well be 10th with a plus goal difference. Edited April 25, 2022 by The Fun Factory 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: It's more than a touch misleading to be comparing 2 points clear after 9 or 10 games, with 10 points clear after 38 games. At that point, Man Utd were only 9 points above the relegation zone, Spurs only 8. Your broader point that the club was a mess when Gerrard took over is more reasonable. I think I’m making a much less sophisticated statistical point than you are assuming. I was responding to a comment that said “ if we are within 10 points its a dismal season considering the gap we had”. Worth remembering that the “gap we had” was 2 points above the drop. My point was simply that 10 points above the drop would be better than 2 points above the drop, and we are in a better position than, say, Everton, who have gained just 14 points from 21 games since last November and have converted a gap of +7 points into a deficit of -2, or Norwich, who at the time in question were 5 points from safety and are now 10 points away. Smith got us 10 points from his 11 games this season. Gerrard has 27 from 21. Even though I don’t think much of Gerrard’s performance, I know which I prefer, and the theme that seems to be developing on these pages, that Gerrard has wrecked the Golden Age left him by Smith, is just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 We will beat one of Liverpool or Man City. I can feel it in my waters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: We will beat one of Liverpool or Man City. I can feel it in my waters. Bit early to drink in the week isn’t it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, briny_ear said: I think I’m making a much less sophisticated statistical point than you are assuming. I was responding to a comment that said “ if we are within 10 points its a dismal season considering the gap we had”. Worth remembering that the “gap we had” was 2 points above the drop. My point was simply that 10 points above the drop would be better than 2 points above the drop, and we are in a better position than, say, Everton, who have gained just 14 points from 21 games since last November and have converted a gap of +7 points into a deficit of -2, or Norwich, who at the time in question were 5 points from safety and are now 10 points away. Smith got us 10 points from his 11 games this season. Gerrard has 27 from 21. Even though I don’t think much of Gerrard’s performance, I know which I prefer, and the theme that seems to be developing on these pages, that Gerrard has wrecked the Golden Age left him by Smith, is just wrong. What I'm trying to get across is that you have used the perfect metric in this post, in the last line (points per game) and that all the other stuff about 'points above the relegation zone' is a bad metric, because for obvious mathematical reasons even the top teams are closer to the relegation zone in absolute point terms in November than they are in May. Points per game gets your point across much better, and it's a fair point. Edited April 25, 2022 by HanoiVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Sulberto21 said: We will beat one of Liverpool or Man City. I can feel it in my waters. That's optimistic. It could also be a massive decider on who wins the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 57 minutes ago, nick76 said: Bit early to drink in the week isn’t it? Alcohol is something I don’t drink. Might have bumped my head though…. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: What I'm trying to get across is that you have used the perfect metric in this post, in the last line (points per game) and that all the other stuff about 'points above the relegation zone' is a bad metric, because for obvious mathematical reasons even the top teams are closer to the relegation zone in absolute point terms in November than they are in May. Points per game gets your point across much better, and it's a fair point. Like I said, I am not doing anything like sophisticated stats here, just trying to quosh a misleading comment from another poster. Edited April 25, 2022 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted April 25, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2022 We only have six games left, but in them we'll be deciding who wins the league and who gets relegated. We're safe I reckon; but our season is massive to everyone else - I like that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: We only have six games left, but in them we'll be deciding who wins the league and who gets relegated. We're safe I reckon; but our season is massive to everyone else - I like that. Nothing would be funnier than Stevie unwittingly denying Liverpool the quadruple. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Jonathan Pearce saying Villa worry him regarding relegation. He thinks we will finish a couple of points outside of relegation. Mentioning it here because it is the first time I’ve really heard the media mention Villa and relegation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Steero113 said: Nothing would be funnier than Stevie unwittingly denying Liverpool the quadruple. We ain't gonna win the CL mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Villa87 said: Jonathan Pearce saying Villa worry him regarding relegation. He thinks we will finish a couple of points outside of relegation. Mentioning it here because it is the first time I’ve really heard the media mention Villa and relegation. I think if we lose to Norwich we are in big trouble. I don't think we will though and one win should give us the confidence to get another couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 What a great season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, messi11 said: What a great season Glad to see you being a bit more positive mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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