Johnnyp Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, Mazrim said: The best managers in this league at the moment are German. Who is the next up and coming German manager? Matthias Jaissle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Matthias Jaissle Yeah, he's probably the one. Doing the Red Bull career path of leading Salzburg to get primed for the Leipzig gig. Would a very interesting name and a huge gamble. Edit: Fun side note he apparently worked in Denmark and Bröndby for 2 years so... Edited November 2, 2021 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Matthias Jaissle Looks like he’s had a great start at RB Salzburg! He’d be younger than some of our players. Could be a manager that may be destined for big things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, sne said: Yeah, he's probably the one. Doing the Red Bull career path of leading Salzburg to get primed for the Leipzig gig. Would a very interesting name and a huge gamble. Maybe. Jesse Marsch is pretty young too so unless he gets sacked at Leipzig and i think he’s doing pretty well, that might not come up for a while. At 33 though, would be a huge gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 If we go German then is definitely one available manager 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted November 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, AvonVillain said: But surely he would? It would be the dream job. Anyone who can bring back the glory years to VP would be in statue territory. Imagine such a thing for a Villa fan? Just an opinion, but to me, it really means something.And that's not the reason I would continue to back DS. I believe in him. How is managing Aston Villa a 'dream job', and why would anyone think they could 'bring back the glory years'? In all honesty, we are complete career killer. Since Houllier retired with ill health, we have had one manager who dropped a division then went to Belgium, one manager who has dropped down the divisions and is currently unemployed, two managers for whom managing Villa was their last managerial job despite having done so half a decade ago, and one guy who went to the MLS. The most respectable post-Villa career is Steve frigging Bruce. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, HKP90 said: Paraphrasing: If we got rid of Smith #1 Potter #2 Lampard Never said that either. I said I'd prefer Lampard over Fonseca (whom I consider an average foreign manager). I see Fonseca as a Portuguese Steve Bruce. I just think the remit for any new gaffer should be: 1. Good with bringing through youngsters. 2. Plays entertaining football. 3. Will get the team passing and moving. Lampard ticks all those boxes. I think people see him as a worse manager than he actually is. He is one of those managers fans love to hate on, like Bruce. I would prefer Smith to stay and turn it around. I'd prefer Potter. But other than Potter who else would be a manager that can take us forward? I don't see any other good option that would take the job. For me Lampard has shown more than Gerrard. Scotland with Rangers is a two team championship. Terry has not managed yet and Fonseca is a manager that has never managed in England, probably can't speak English, never done anything of note outside of Porto. After Potter what are the better options? Nuno? Howe? Dyche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chine Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I just came on here and saw this upto 12 pages today ! I thought he must have been appointed!!! DS is still here ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: How is managing Aston Villa a 'dream job', and why would anyone think they could 'bring back the glory years'? In all honesty, we are complete career killer. Since Houllier retired with ill health, we have had one manager who dropped a division then went to Belgium, one manager who has dropped down the divisions and is currently unemployed, two managers for whom managing Villa was their last managerial job despite having done so half a decade ago, and one guy who went to the MLS. The most respectable post-Villa career is Steve frigging Bruce. Even go back before Houllier, O'Neill got a couple of jobs but nothing major. Not sure Taylor ever worked again and O'Leary, Little and Gregory just disappeared from the top flight As for the glory years, any manager would either have balls of steel or extremely deluded if he thinks he can win us a title in the next decade Edited November 2, 2021 by Zatman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: How is managing Aston Villa a 'dream job', and why would anyone think they could 'bring back the glory years'? In all honesty, we are complete career killer. Since Houllier retired with ill health, we have had one manager who dropped a division then went to Belgium, one manager who has dropped down the divisions and is currently unemployed, two managers for whom managing Villa was their last managerial job despite having done so half a decade ago, and one guy who went to the MLS. The most respectable post-Villa career is Steve frigging Bruce. Spot on and unfortunately you can say the same about the players. We've barely seen a player poached since we lost our entire midfield about 10-11 years ago and of course Grealish in the summer. We are like a graveyard for managers and players alike. Edited November 2, 2021 by AVFCDAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanmac Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 We talk some bollox about players but at least there is a modicum of logic and a few common schools of thought are established. However, switch to new managers and people are completely out of their wheelhouse. This thread is barmy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: How is managing Aston Villa a 'dream job', and why would anyone think they could 'bring back the glory years'? Surprised I'm actually replying to this... Do people only read half-sentences before becoming too excited by their possible reply to bother reading further? #1. Managing Aston Villa would be a dream job......... for a Villa fan. As per the rest of my sentence. #2. 'Why would anyone think they could bring back the glory years?' Well perhaps through the wealth and support of the obviously ambitious owners. Why wouldn't an ambitious manager think big? You would prefer we brought in someone who thought it admirable just to keep us up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 So this is the new manager thread in disguise then lol 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Smith mistakes are from his fear. He tries something, if it works, he keep it until it fails, but he keeps failing for weeks to understand. He isn’t a bad manager, but he needs to be more dynamic and act quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, Philosopher said: Never said that either. I said I'd prefer Lampard over Fonseca (whom I consider an average foreign manager). I see Fonseca as a Portuguese Steve Bruce. I just think the remit for any new gaffer should be: 1. Good with bringing through youngsters. 2. Plays entertaining football. 3. Will get the team passing and moving. Lampard ticks all those boxes. I think people see him as a worse manager than he actually is. He is one of those managers fans love to hate on, like Bruce. I would prefer Smith to stay and turn it around. I'd prefer Potter. But other than Potter who else would be a manager that can take us forward? I don't see any other good option that would take the job. For me Lampard has shown more than Gerrard. Scotland with Rangers is a two team championship. Terry has not managed yet and Fonseca is a manager that has never managed in England, probably can't speak English, never done anything of note outside of Porto. After Potter what are the better options? Nuno? Howe? Dyche? 4 hours ago, Philosopher said: No average foreign managers please! Graham Potter my number one if Smith is to be replaced. Otherwise prefer Lampard. At least he would get the midfield functioning and bring through the youth. We must get a manager brave enough to play youngsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, Zatman said: Even go back before Houllier, O'Neill got a couple of jobs but nothing major. Not sure Taylor ever worked again and O'Leary, Little and Gregory just disappeared from the top flight As for the glory years, any manager would either have balls of steel or extremely deluded if he thinks he can win us a title in the next decade Steady, Gregory went on to manage Chennaiyin in the Indian Super League. Led them to glory too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Don’t want Fonseca. Think he’s overrated and hasn’t done anything special as a manager. But even taking the claret and blue specs off the Villa job is a huge and attractive job for most managers. You have a club that has fantastic facilities, recent investments in both the training ground and youth academy, very promising youth players and then the likes of Chuck, Archer, the Ramsey brothers and JPB. A fairly balanced squad that still needs further work but one that should be a top half team. Investment from the owners who themselves have done everything right. With the right manager everything is in place. Hopefully Dean can perform a miracle and change his fortunes because I think 99% of us want that but it’s not looking good. My hope is we get someone up and coming that has done well in “less competitive leagues”, like France, Germany, Portugal etc. I think the Villa job today is a huge pull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, Zatman said: Even go back before Houllier, O'Neill got a couple of jobs but nothing major. Not sure Taylor ever worked again and O'Leary, Little and Gregory just disappeared from the top flight As for the glory years, any manager would either have balls of steel or extremely deluded if he thinks he can win us a title in the next decade I've graduated, spent a decade living in Asia, got married, managed a business, started buying a house, lost my hair and am now writing a will, and our 'glory years' were still before I was born. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanmac Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 The quality of Managerial appointments correlate to the quality of your owners in the main (bar outrageous strokes of luck). It's the decision maker's knowledge, judgement and level of ambition that dictate if we get a good manager. The shit uninspired appointments of yester year perfectly reflected Ellis, Lerner and Xia in that regard and now that we are under a completely different ownership group so I don't the graveyard stuff is relevant . I mean Lerner made an appointment based on a **** letter from SAF ffs "Sir Alex Ferguson wrote to me after the appointment, a proper letter, talking about his feelings about Alex. It was something you don't easily forget and it's now in a safe deposit box. Given what Sir Alex Ferguson means to the game of football, I don't think you could get many things that you would be more proud of, or reflect better on Alex McLeish." Shudder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Steero113 said: Whilst I'm not against going 'left field' per se, what exactly is the difference between Fonseca and Gallardo? Fonseca in his one stint at a club who are expected to dominate their league did exactly that at Shaktar. Gallardo is hardly dominating the Primera is he. Gallardo record is the best in Rivers history. Just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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