DaveAV1 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 7 hours ago, RicRic said: Part of the image above but based on it, i think we need to call this one off guys, Rodrigo Bentancur does not appear to be the player we need , what do you guys think If only we had people at the club who could properly read these statistics and apply some sort of context to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) I hope the Tarkowski story is bullshit. A huge downgrade on Konsa Edited January 25, 2022 by Zatman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 52 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: If only we had people at the club who could properly read these statistics and apply some sort of context to them. Don't worry, VT is an open forum and I am sure Lange et al check here before making any decisions 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, Zatman said: I hope the Tarkowski story is bullshit. A huge downgrade on Konsa Really? Even if you rate Konsa more highly, surely the downgrade isn't 'huge'? Tarkowski is a good player and I think he'd push the current two for a starting role. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Really? Even if you rate Konsa more highly, surely the downgrade isn't 'huge'? Tarkowski is a good player and I think he'd push the current two for a starting role. He is nearly 30 and hasnt got near a transfer to a top team and has just been linked with Newcastle For me its a lazy and expensive transfer and Burnley defenders look good in the Burnley defensive system. Look at Michael Keane he looks an absolute mess at Everton 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Really? Even if you rate Konsa more highly, surely the downgrade isn't 'huge'? Tarkowski is a good player and I think he'd push the current two for a starting role. He would improve our squad and would definitely put pressure on both Mings and Konsa for a start. Edit: but he is not a player I would like to sign. I would prefer younger and better Edited January 25, 2022 by Peter Griffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 40 minutes ago, Zatman said: I hope the Tarkowski story is bullshit. A huge downgrade on Konsa But upgrade on Axle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Is Tarkowski a good defender or is he 'only' a good defender in the system and style Burnley play? Would he suit us? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 25, 2022 Tarkowski is better than the current right footed backup CB. But I hope the intention isn't for him to replace to Konsa if this story has any legs on it at all, which seems unlikely to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 48 minutes ago, Zatman said: I hope the Tarkowski story is bullshit. A huge downgrade on Konsa Much better than Mings though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Tomaszk said: Much better than Mings though. Can you give me the number of your dealer please? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 We are comfortable with the idea of rotating the rest of starting line up depending on form, fitness and who the opposition is so I think Tarkowski would be a great signing and offer us a different dimension at the back. I've only ever been impressed with him when watching him and been surprised that Southgate hasn't given him a call up recently considering how bad the options are in defence. I do appreciate most people prefer a settled back 4 and goalkeeper though so I understand when people are sceptical about players we're linked to in defence. I mean look at some people's reaction to Digne, if you were getting that calibre of player in midfield or up front when you're light in the position it would be an absolute coup, but as soon as it's a defender you question what part of their game is stronger and how they fit into the current system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Tomaszk said: Much better than Mings though. He plays on the right side of a back 4 Not sure he is better than Mings either. I think Mee () makes him look better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Zatman said: He plays on the right side of a back 4. They aren't different positions for me. It's centre half. Same as centre mid. This wasn't a problem until about three seasons ago when everyone decided a left footer CB was essential. We get better if Tarkowski starts next to Konsa regardless. Be very surprised if we sign him. It's Burnley relegating themselves. Plus he'll be put on a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, picicata said: Is Tarkowski a good defender or is he 'only' a good defender in the system and style Burnley play? Would he suit us? I think he is a good CB in their system. He is not as mobile as others but if Mings or Konsa were injured / suspended I would be reasonably happy to see him play. But agre and cost would put be off him too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Much better than Mings though. Pardon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Ideally we want 60+ games a season so we need a squad of 23 players who are competing for their spots. Two for every position and then a few of the u23s mixing it up in the group too. We then go with like 40/20 games split between each player for each position. When a player is doing well in training he should earn a place in the team. Even if we said one day to McGinn, I'm giving Sanson a chance in this game. What this does is makes Sanson feel like his efforts are noticed, he'll be mega up for the game and wanting to perform. If he does well then McGinn comes back in the next game rested and extra motivated because he's seen how well Sanson did and needs to keep his game up. This type of competition is what takes us to the elite level. Everyone feeling involved, motivated and competitive to get minutes on the pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishlad Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Should have used the Ings money to buy Bissouma. I reckon we only got Ings cause we tried to get Ward Prowse. And Southhampton Said no, but you can have Ings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zatman said: I hope the Tarkowski story is bullshit. A huge downgrade on Konsa 24 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Tarkowski is better than the current right footed backup CB. But I hope the intention isn't for him to replace to Konsa if this story has any legs on it at all, which seems unlikely to me. What story? I've checked aggregators and he's linked with Newcastle, heavily. Nothing about us unless it's some lazy football Insider rubbish Edited January 25, 2022 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HalfTimePost Posted January 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) Loving the people who lose their minds when Mings plays a long ball saying we should be playing it out better...and then saying we want James Tarkowski Tarkowski plays 7.9 Long Balls a game, Mings 8.2. Mings is slightly less accurate (4.5 inaccurate a game, Tarkowski 4) but that doesn't account for the fact Tarkowski had Chris Wood to target directly and Mings has Ollie and Buendia trying to run on to long balls. However Tarkowski has attempted 417 short passes in the league this year,102 of them inaccurate, 75% accuracy. Mings has attempted 721 short passes, missing less in way more attempts, 86. 88% Accuracy. Edited January 25, 2022 by HalfTimePost 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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