M_Afro Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I know it’s early days but it’s very hard to see how this can be a successful signing. There’s a reason why Southampton were prepared to sell him for £25m but fought tooth and nail to keep JWP. With the salary that he is earning we can’t afford to take a chance to see if it works out, which I’m certain it won’t. If we don’t try and offload him quickly, his age, salary and injury record will really work against us. We could end up loaning him out and still paying a large percentage of his wages. Any opportunity to offload him now and I would take it. He just brings more questions than answers for us at this stage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 It's not going to work for him unless it's him or Watkins up front as the one striker in a front three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2021 Has anyone said yet that Ings and Watkins don't work together up front? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, M_Afro said: I know it’s early days but it’s very hard to see how this can be a successful signing. There’s a reason why Southampton were prepared to sell him for £25m but fought tooth and nail to keep JWP. With the salary that he is earning we can’t afford to take a chance to see if it works out, which I’m certain it won’t. If we don’t try and offload him quickly, his age, salary and injury record will really work against us. We could end up loaning him out and still paying a large percentage of his wages. Any opportunity to offload him now and I would take it. He just brings more questions than answers for us at this stage. He turned down a new deal at Southampton and was in the last 12 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) I can see him being fairly successful in games we're on top in. He's technically far better than Watkins. I can see him scoring plenty in a flowing side making more chances. Doesn't have the physicality though and should be either on the bench or one of the 10s in this shape at the moment. Edited December 28, 2021 by Tomaszk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted December 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2021 Proven top quality Premier league striker. I'm willing to have some patience with him. It's been such a disruptive season so far. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I love him to bits and think he is the better striker than Watkins. But is it ever gonna work, an can we drop Watkins without him having a strop. Tout him to Newcastle maybe, now they are desperate for a striker, could get out money back at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: Proven top quality Premier league striker. I'm willing to have some patience with him. It's been such a disruptive season so far. I agree. His record speaks for itself, you don't do what he has done and be no good. Something is wrong for sure, but to me it looks more like a fitness issue, but I an just speculating. He has played 9 games, thats nothing.....you are right, SG et al....just need time to sort it out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, foreveryoung said: I love him to bits and think he is the better striker than Watkins. But is it ever gonna work, an can we drop Watkins without him having a strop. Tout him to Newcastle maybe, now they are desperate for a striker, could get out money back at least. On Paper its a dream combination.....The manager and players, just have to work it out. Danny has played 9 games for us and SG has been with us a wet day.....it needs time. We could sign another striker and still the same outcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Ings is a better footballer than Watkins, there's no doubt whatsoever about that. However, Watkins style suits our system better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Ings is a better footballer than Watkins, there's no doubt whatsoever about that. However, Watkins style suits our system better. Ok so we can rotate depending on the game or especially if Ollie continues his poor form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 hours ago, AVTuco said: Has anyone said yet that Ings and Watkins don't work together up front? Bold statement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post foreveryoung Posted December 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, TRO said: On Paper its a dream combination.....The manager and players, just have to work it out. Danny has played 9 games for us and SG has been with us a wet day.....it needs time. We could sign another striker and still the same outcome. My worry at the moment is, Watkins don't look like he's interested in playing with Ings, or anyone else for that matter. Edited December 28, 2021 by foreveryoung 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: Ings is a better footballer than Watkins, there's no doubt whatsoever about that. However, Watkins style suits our system better. This is the thing. Certain players just don't suit certain clubs. Ings is a good striker but he just don't fit the way we like to play. Edited December 28, 2021 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: My worry is at the moment, Watkins does not look like interested in playing with Ings, or anyone else for that matter. I don’t think he’s not interested in playing up top with Ings, he just works better up front by himself, he proved that last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 28, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 28, 2021 I think Watkins looks terrible in midfield - when he's been the striker he's been fine. Ings is a decent striker, but he struggles a bit for supply when we limit the midfield by putting Watkins in there. Either of these players are capable of doing a great job for us up front. Either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: when he's been the striker he's been fine. He hasn’t though, that’s the problem. If it was just the Ings/Watkins partnership then fine just drop one of them but even when he’s been on his own, Ollie has even poor. Both strikers are in poor form whether playing together or alone. Edited December 28, 2021 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 28, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, nick76 said: He hasn’t though, that’s the problem. Well that's an opinion and you're welcome to it, I think he's been fine. He's got two in his last four up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, OutByEaster? said: Well that's an opinion and you're welcome to it, I think he's been fine. He's got two in his last four up top. Well read the Watkins thread, many disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, nick76 said: He hasn’t though, that’s the problem. If it was just the Ings/Watkins partnership then fine just drop one of them but even when he’s been on his own, Ollie has even poor. Both strikers are in poor form whether playing together or alone. I thought he was class against City, and has generally looked much better when played in the centre on his own, but I appreciate he hasn’t hit the heights of last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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