rodders0223 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Ings or Watkins. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Ings managed to look like a square peg in a round hole despite being the central striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Somes players just dont fit in. Maybe Ings is one of them. Unless hes scoring then he doesnt offer much else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 If his reported salary is correct we have got a problem. I always thought he was an odd signing but if he is in £120k/wk, we are stuck with him. I just don’t see how he fits in other than being first reserve for Ollie. We can’t afford to be paying our first reserve that much! If Newcastle come calling in Jan, I would offload him at the first opportunity. A very odd signing, that looks odder with every passing week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 minute ago, M_Afro said: If his reported salary is correct we have got a problem. I always thought he was an odd signing but if he is in £120k/wk, we are stuck with him. I just don’t see how he fits in other than being first reserve for Ollie. We can’t afford to be paying our first reserve that much! If Newcastle come calling in Jan, I would offload him at the first opportunity. A very odd signing, that looks odder with every passing week. No way should we be helping those feckers. Much rather loan him back to Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, villalad21 said: No way should we be helping those feckers. Much rather loan him back to Saints They are our best hope of a decent transfer fee and they can afford to match his wages. They are also desperate. I only care about what’s best for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, villalad21 said: No way should we be helping those feckers. Much rather loan him back to Saints To be honest I wouldn't care about helping them in the short term, to help ourselves in the long term. Ings undoubtedly has pedigree, but I'm starting to inch towards the " where does he fit in " if we see Ollie as our number one. Also, it could just be us being impatient and writing things off too early as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 He doesn’t look like value for anything like what we paid in transfer fee of wages for him. He doesn’t look happy. Like one of those signings where they don’t want to come but we’ve offered too much to turn down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: To be honest I wouldn't care about helping them in the short term, to help ourselves in the long term. Ings undoubtedly has pedigree, but I'm starting to inch towards the " where does he fit in " if we see Ollie as our number one. Also, it could just be us being impatient and writing things off too early as well. Also if we want transfer value then it would be easier to get a big fee for Ollie given his age and salary than sell Ings. If Ollie carries on the way he is, in his poor form, then it wouldnt make a difference whether we sell either but whoever we sell we need to replace and getting a bigger fee then we can find a better solution. I dont honestly want to sell either but we arent going to get decent value for Ings so for budget purposes if we had to sell one it would have to be Ings. Again I wouldnt sell either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Genie said: He doesn’t look like value for anything like what we paid in transfer fee of wages for him. He doesn’t look happy. Like one of those signings where they don’t want to come but we’ve offered too much to turn down. Very good point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasetown Villa Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Panic buy if there ever was one. Apart from that wonderful overhead kick against Newcastle he’s done nothing all season. Really poor today, doesn’t look sharp at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 26, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 26, 2021 If we want to progress we need two good players in every position. Ings gives us that. He's a back up to Ollie or a good option if Ollie is out of form. But it's one or the other. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 I wonder if they get on back stage. I dunno but Ollie seems a bit of a sulker to me. Just speculating. Never seen 2 strikers not work so much on a pitch. They should be working together, loving each other, little 1-2s, grabbing the goals. But they just look like 2 individuals out there, not interested in where each other is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: If we want to progress we need two good players in every position. Ings gives us that. He's a back up to Ollie or a good option if Ollie is out of form. But it's one or the other. It’s chicken and egg scenario isn’t it. Are we good enough to have someone that costs that much money on the bench week after week? No Will we move up to the next level without strength in depth? No We actually need Watkins to get injured to justify it. Edited December 26, 2021 by Genie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Are we good enough to have someone that costs that much money on the bench week after week? No Why? Are we believing we are a Top 8 team? If we do, look at those teams around us that have expensive quality on the bench and not just one or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: Why? Are we believing we are a Top 8 team? If we do, look at those teams around us that have expensive quality on the bench and not just one or two. We aren’t leaving him on the bench, that’s the issue. We’re shoe horning both into the side, I assume because he cost so much money and he wouldn’t be happy on the bench. Edited December 26, 2021 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Genie said: We aren’t leaving him on the bench, that’s the issue. We’re shoe horning both into the side, I assume because he cost so much money and he wouldn’t be happy on the bench. Or that Traore has been out, Bailey is out. We haven’t had many options on the front line have we because of injuries to Ollie early on and Ings recently so I’m not sure we are shoe horning. It’s a mixture of having to because of injuries and also trying new combinations out. Wasn’t this the first time Gerrard started both?! Plus Ollie has been well out of form. Also if Ollie doesn’t score, it’s not as if anybody else really scores. We don’t get consistent other scorers so nice to have more than one person on the pitch than can score regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 It'll be easier when we're in Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, nick76 said: Also if Ollie doesn’t score, it’s not as if anybody else really scores. Which is an issue in itself considering we spent £100m on Ings, Buendia and Bailey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Which is an issue in itself considering we spent £100m on Ings, Buendia and Bailey. I meant that if Ings isn’t on then we have to rely on Ollie. We have no idea about Bailey yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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