GingerCollins29 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 We'll keep him this season and then I fear it will be a loan to turkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Bailey is for sale if someone wants to buy him as are a few other squad players, Chambers, Dendoncker, Digne, Olsen. And before anyone starts babbling on about needing a squad, I think the club bloody knows that, if any of these players are sold they will obvioulsy be replaced with players we think are better suited for what Emery wants. And also just because the club is prepared to listen to offers for them that doen't mean to say they're not rated or can't come good if they do stay, the situation is way more nuanced than people on here understand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, juanpablosaliceband said: Maybe but I don’t think the whole merits of someone’s opinion should be dismissed based on the Traore versus Bailey debate. It’s like arguing over Ant and Dec. They’ve both been poor. I’d argue Traore has done more in less appearances but that’s just my opinion. But I think some people are in denial at just how bad Bailey has been. Where are the PL clubs interested in Traore? Where are the clubs from the top 5 leagues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, useless said: Bailey is for sale if someone wants to buy him as are a few other squad players, Chambers, Dendoncker, Digne, Olsen. And before anyone starts babbling on about needing a squad, I think the club bloody knows that, if any of these players are sold they will obvioulsy be replaced with players we think are better suited for what Emery wants. And also just because the club is prepared to listen to offers for them that doen't mean to say they're not rated or can't come good if they do stay, the situation is way more nuanced than people on here understand. I agree, if we move for another forward one of Bailey, Coutinho, Archer or Duran goes out and vice versa. Edited July 31, 2023 by CVByrne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpablosaliceband Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 minute ago, CVByrne said: Where are the PL clubs interested in Traore? Where are the clubs from the top 5 leagues? I don’t expect any decent club to be chasing Traore. But I could say the same about Bailey. I genuinely don’t think we could give him away at the moment with the wages he’s on. Anyway, I genuinely hope Bailey can turn things around. We need him to come good for us. But I’m not confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, juanpablosaliceband said: I don’t expect any decent club to be chasing Traore. But I could say the same about Bailey. I genuinely don’t think we could give him away at the moment with the wages he’s on. Anyway, I genuinely hope Bailey can turn things around. We need him to come good for us. But I’m not confident. Except Ajax were after him last summer when he had a far worse season behind him the last season. He'd have plenty of people wanting to sign him. He played a pretty big role in our season where we finished 7th. Edited July 31, 2023 by CVByrne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Except Ajax were after him last summer when he had a far worse season behind him the last season. He'd have plenty of people wanting to sign him. He played a pretty big role in our season where we finished 7th. I guess it’s tricky for other mid table clubs from other leagues to buy him though - they could t afford his wages and Bailey might not be willing to lower his wages to go to a worse team in a worse league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Except Ajax were after him last summer when he had a far worse season behind him the last season. He'd have plenty of people wanting to sign him. He played a pretty big role in our season where we finished 7th. I haven’t seen evidence of him being up for sale but if he is I’m pretty sure there will be suiters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 minute ago, ender4 said: I guess it’s tricky for other mid table clubs from other leagues to buy him though - they could t afford his wages and Bailey might not be willing to lower his wages to go to a worse team in a worse league. This is the problem. Same with Donk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, useless said: Bailey is for sale if someone wants to buy him as are a few other squad players, Chambers, Dendoncker, Digne, Olsen. And before anyone starts babbling on about needing a squad, I think the club bloody knows that, if any of these players are sold they will obvioulsy be replaced with players we think are better suited for what Emery wants. And also just because the club is prepared to listen to offers for them that doen't mean to say they're not rated or can't come good if they do stay, the situation is way more nuanced than people on here understand. Do you work for the club? You seem to have keen inside knowledge do you work for Football Insider? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Why get rid of a player that was showing obvious signs of improvement last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 minute ago, The Fun Factory said: Why get rid of a player that was showing obvious signs of improvement last season? So obvious none of us spotted it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 12 hours ago, Demitri_C said: I cant agree. Traore for me doesn't put the shift in that bailey does. Yes baikey can be erratic but you cabt fault his attitude and wants thw ball. Traore on the other hand yes he can produce a momwnt of magic but he often goes missing in games. I remember he waa given a start last season had a absolute stinker and ringed off at half time as he was that bad. Bailey has sonething about him, ita just he tends to either hold the ball too long or make the wrong decision. I do truely believe this can be coached on with emery. With traore i just dont think he can be relied on a full season. He comes cross lazy too in games Yes I think we must agree to disagree - I really don’t see anything in Bailey that lends me to think he is going to make it in the prem. You could argue that both Bailey and Traore’ are similar in a number of ways - The difference for me is that Bertie has something extremely special in his locker that I don’t believe anyone else in our squad has. He can be insanely mercurial in an instant and pull a rabbit out of the hat ( see Leicester away ) something that I don’t see in Bailey. I also feel that Bertie is an entertainer and despite the pressure, intensity along with the sheer greed of the premier league - there is still room for entertainers in football imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 36 minutes ago, ChesterDad said: Yes I think we must agree to disagree - I really don’t see anything in Bailey that lends me to think he is going to make it in the prem. You could argue that both Bailey and Traore’ are similar in a number of ways - The difference for me is that Bertie has something extremely special in his locker that I don’t believe anyone else in our squad has. He can be insanely mercurial in an instant and pull a rabbit out of the hat ( see Leicester away ) something that I don’t see in Bailey. I also feel that Bertie is an entertainer and despite the pressure, intensity along with the sheer greed of the premier league - there is still room for entertainers in football imo Thw only reason im inclined to keep baikey oves traore is watching clipa of how well diaby and bailey linked up at leverkeusen. If we can get that magic here we will be superb next season But baikey does nees to show more ans be more consistent thats for sure. I think thia season is make or break for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Balance. Thats what he is missing. Means he has less strength than others and gets knocked off the ball. Already obvious that Diaby amd Pbilogene have more balance . A wand of a left foot but in this unforgiving league and less space on the counter his strengths are negated at times. I dont know how you teach balance at a high level. You either have it or you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Allan Saint-Maximin sold for £30million so I’d expect since Bailey’s a better player to attract bids of £35mill + IF the Saudi interest is actually real. That sort of money think we’re selling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, thabucks said: Allan Saint-Maximin sold for £30million so I’d expect since Bailey’s a better player to attract bids of £35mill + IF the Saudi interest is actually real. That sort of money think we’re selling They have the same owners don’t they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaslash Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 It was interesting seeing him getting pretty mad at Douglas Luiz when he didn’t release him down the wing yesterday. Everyone else was pretty calm but Bailey got really wound up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 not great sources but we live in hope… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 1, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 1, 2023 Better be a sufficiently stupid fee, if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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