sharkyvilla Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: Thanks; a brief Google shows lots of instances of reporting that this had happened, but sadly not whether the perp was caught (and what happened to him if so). Other sporting instances I'm seeing are American. There is some evidence out there that people do get into big trouble for this stuff, eg this guy was jailed for shining a laser at a police helicopter: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-50570932 I guess it's a bit of a needle in a haystack at a football match. I don't recall a team ever being punished for it, and having accusations of bias towards them at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, sharkyvilla said: I guess it's a bit of a needle in a haystack at a football match. I don't recall a team ever being punished for it, and having accusations of bias towards them at the same time. Yeah, I'm never really sure about fining teams for these things; I guess you have to have some kind of punishment, but it's got to be quite hard to prevent a determined idiot from doing something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Talk of Foden missing the final with injury Jack will definitely be first choice sub now if England need a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted July 10, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 hours ago, TRO said: perhaps its a hanover from the song Contest....where we are deemed world enemy No 1. If we had to dine out on love for us, we would starve. Not sure it's a Eurovision hangover, more being tired of what used to just be the far right in England making false accusations and calling people in Europe words removed becoming official government policy since 2016 and the word removed calling getting a whole lot worse. That and EU citizens being treated like shit coming back into the UK since 1 Jan even when they own companies and pay lots of tax. There are still an enormous amount of people in the EU that love British culture (note British there) but if the English nationalists keep it up for much longer then it's hard to see that not disappearing. We're not really world enemy number one, but you can count the number of countries that will be mostly supporting England on the finger of one finger in Europe. It's very sad and was very avoidable. That said the final will most likely be a poor game, I think we need to win it without it going to penalties though as Pickford isn't a patch on Donnarumma. Quite a few of my mates over here have been saying Pickford gives them a lot of hope of scoring. He's seen as the weakest link by a lot of people over here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AvfcRigo82 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Xela said: Talk of Foden missing the final with injury Jack will definitely be first choice sub now if England need a goal. Pointless though since no other player in the team passes to him. I have a real feeling that it was pointless him going to the Euro's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Pointless though since no other player in the team passes to him. I have a real feeling that it was pointless him going to the Euro's. I think he's made a difference every time he's been on the pitch. b Plus, just him coming on gives the crowd a huge boost... you can sense the stadium lift. That must put a bit of fear in the opposition as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AvfcRigo82 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 57 minutes ago, Only2McInallys said: This is the only flag we will need Sunday... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Xela said: I think he's made a difference every time he's been on the pitch. b Plus, just him coming on gives the crowd a huge boost... you can sense the stadium lift. That must put a bit of fear in the opposition as well 100% agree But also think in a weird way that's why he's being used the way he is Crowd gets a boost, other players get a boost, tempo goes up, opposition drop deeper Its Jack out of everyone that seems to have the "**** hell how good are we were bringing grealish on" about him And I do think the other players get a boost, even if they aren't passing to him or he's not getting that involved, even when he's on we still play through sterling but we just look more likely with Jack on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 hours ago, sne said: Don't think for a second that UEFA has any love for England You say that but Wembley has been selected for loads of high profile games over the past few years. I think they had the champions league final twice in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted July 10, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, Xela said: I think he's made a difference every time he's been on the pitch. b Plus, just him coming on gives the crowd a huge boost... you can sense the stadium lift. That must put a bit of fear in the opposition as well Thought he was pretty poor against Denmark. Couple poor touches, lost the ball a few times. Do agree he's been great off the bench in general but the last game he struggled to do much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, villa4europe said: 100% agree But also think in a weird way that's why he's being used the way he is Crowd gets a boost, other players get a boost, tempo goes up, opposition drop deeper Its Jack out of everyone that seems to have the "**** hell how good are we were bringing grealish on" about him And I do think the other players get a boost, even if they aren't passing to him or he's not getting that involved, even when he's on we still play through sterling but we just look more likely with Jack on You're right. Its like he's being used as a booster late in the game... a shot of footballing red bull to give everyone a lift. No other England player can do it. Crowd go wild and every time he gets the ball there is a buzz. That must affect the opposition. Perhaps they double mark him, therefore leaving more room for Sterling/Mount/Kane etc. You wouldn't get that boost if he started. It's similar to how Italy used Baggio in Italia 90. Didn't start a group game... but he did start the knock out games. He was a difference maker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted July 10, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rino8 said: Thought he was pretty poor against Denmark. Couple poor touches, lost the ball a few times. Do agree he's been great off the bench in general but the last game he struggled to do much He presented the best chance we had, in open play, to Kane and had a shot saved that was on target. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, Rino8 said: Thought he was pretty poor against Denmark. Couple poor touches, lost the ball a few times. Do agree he's been great off the bench in general but the last game he struggled to do much I wouldn't say poor - he wasn't as effective as the Germany game. However, he did make a difference. For that short spell that Jack and Foden were on, it was nirvana! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 43 minutes ago, Xela said: Talk of Foden missing the final with injury Jack will definitely be first choice sub now if England need a goal. No chance foden would have started anyway. Which in itself is bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Ive noticed 2 or 3 times when he comes on it takes him 5-10 minutes to settle and hits a few dodgy passes at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villa4europe Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Rino8 said: Thought he was pretty poor against Denmark. Couple poor touches, lost the ball a few times. Do agree he's been great off the bench in general but the last game he struggled to do much You want to talk about phillips spooning one over when he should have left it to grealish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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