a-k Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 39 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Van Dijk, Mane, Oxlade, Shaw, Schneiderlin (when he was good), Hojberg, Wanyama, Lallana and most importantly of all....Matt Targett! They could've easily gotten into Europe. They did though, knocked out before the group stage in 15-16. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I said quite a lot last season that I think Doug and McGinn were having to try and do the job of a 3 man midfield once Barkley gave up and we didn't have Jack either. If we add Ward-Prowse I think you'll see Doug and McGinn return to their best (with Marv covering the start of the season for Doug) and we also have Sanson plus the youngsters. JWP would be a great signing, I'd probably go up to £40m to get it done, maybe more with add-ons for stuff like England appearances or we get European football. I doubt we will have a midfield of McGinn, Luiz and JWP if he comes. We are already going to have to make room for Ings which is either going to mean one goes wide out of him and Ollie or one plays behind the other. Dependant if Emi plays the 10 role and Bailey plays right. I think if JWP does come in one of Dougie or Marv will go. We've also got Ramsey and Chuk in there also. There is going to be some serious compo this year imo. Something we haven't had for quite a while. A new CDM/CM is vital though I think. Someone next level Edited August 6, 2021 by avfc1982am 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, allani said: But do they take free kicks from the same side of the pitch? I thought (but could well be wrong!) Bailey was left footed and JWP right footed? If so then the one thing better than a good free kick taker, is a good free kick taker on the right side of the penalty box and an equally good free kick taker on the left side of the penalty box. It also means that it will be a bitch for keepers to set up a wall for more central free kicks because you need to prepare for the ball curling either way depending on who actually hits it. That’s actually a very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 17 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: I said quite a lot last season that I think Doug and McGinn were having to try and do the job of a 3 man midfield once Barkley gave up and we didn't have Jack either. If we add Ward-Prowse I think you'll see Doug and McGinn return to their best (with Marv covering the start of the season for Doug) and we also have Sanson plus the youngsters. JWP would be a great signing, I'd probably go up to £40m to get it done, maybe more with add-ons for stuff like England appearances or we get European football. Agree, I also think Sanson will add a lot to this midfield once he gets fit, he has great stats and an eye for goal, his game has a lot of defensive work in it. I think these players we are considering are going to offer alternative formations as we were one dimensional last season, and when at home or away, or easier teams or harder teams: I can see Tuenzebe as a starter in a 3-5-2 with maybe cash and Young as the wing backs here. I can see loads of variations with our new additions, I don’t see them all playing together necessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 7, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2021 Shearer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Shearer. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Just seen Bertrand gone too. They can’t really lose JWP too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 No JWP for them today. They’ve got relegation written all over them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catanzaro Posted August 7, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2021 22 hours ago, rodders0223 said: It's the Coutinho situation. You've sold a top player, everyone knows you have money and you're going after someone tied into a long term deal and is the jewel in the crown of his team You will have to pay through the nose for this transfer to come off. Do we want to do that for James Ward Prowse? I mean, I like him. He's decent on the ball his free kicks are the best in Europe in my opinion. He has a lovely strike on him. - but honestly I think his passing in open play is just above average, he's very lightweight and not athletically blessed. He is what he is at the stage of his career. I don't see him going another level. I don't think it makes sense on any level to break the bank for this guy. I'd like to see him in a Villa shirt but it makes no sense. He would definitely be an upgrade on what we have - but it would take 50m- 60m I would presume. Is he a £60m step up on what we have? Not for me. He's a decent improvement. I think that JWP is a great player and support the idea that we try and get him, but you have made some really good points here and you’ve made me rethink how much he is worth.. £35M max? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, Spoony said: No JWP for them today. They’ve got relegation written all over them Wasn’t there a report last week saying he’d picked up a knee injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouchmefoot Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, av1 said: Wasn’t there a report last week saying he’d picked up a knee injury? Yeah he's injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shay Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 i think the player that will be bench if JWP signs wont be Luiz.. it will be Mcginn. And regarding the Luiz vs JWP stats, i think JWP can rack up better stats with better players and coaching/tactics around him. So we might see an even better JWP here plus the elite dead ball ability of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shay said: i think the player that will be bench if JWP signs wont be Luiz.. it will be Mcginn. And regarding the Luiz vs JWP stats, i think JWP can rack up better stats with better players and coaching/tactics around him. So we might see an even better JWP here plus the elite dead ball ability of course DS rarely leaves Mcginn out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 On 08/08/2021 at 02:51, Vive_La_Villa said: Just seen Bertrand gone too. They can’t really lose JWP too. Bertrand must be about 45 by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shay Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, hippo said: DS rarely leaves Mcginn out. thats where JWP comes in…dont forget Sanson too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shay said: thats where JWP comes in…dont forget Sanson too McGinn isn't getting dropped. If anyone will it will be Luiz. McGinn is a Smith type player. Tenacious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shay Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: McGinn isn't getting dropped. If anyone will it will be Luiz. McGinn is a Smith type player. Tenacious Not a chance. If we see the same Mcginn from last season, no way isnt he getting dropped. Luiz is the only safe one for me now (unless we get a new no.6 like Anguissa or Bissouma). He will rotate with Nakamba in the no.6 role, while Mcginn,Sanson and (if he signs) JWP will compete to start in the B2B role. Granted Sanson’s not ready now but once he does he has every chance to take that spot. Alternatively, we may play with two holding midfielder i.e. JWP and Luiz and one attacking mid i.e. Sanson? (not sure if he can play that role), Buendia or even Ings. Bottom line is, there’ll be alot of options in midfield for Dean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 On 06/08/2021 at 18:04, a-k said: They did though, knocked out before the group stage in 15-16. And if we are lucky we can achieve that dream one day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 51 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: McGinn isn't getting dropped. If anyone will it will be Luiz. McGinn is a Smith type player. Tenacious McGinn was our best player in the first half yesterday, looked sharp, strong and energetic. If we can spring JWP then for me he plays as the deepest of a midfield 3, (if not a traditional 6) with McGinn/Sanson and Buendia. If Deano sets up with either Watkins or Ings instead of both, then Buendia goes into the front 3 and JWP plays with McGinn and Sanson - probably a better mix against stronger teams, imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Kiwivillan said: Bertrand must be about 45 by now 32 so understandable why released. A decent back up LB for Leicester though. Similar to Young for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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