bannedfromHandV Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, ender4 said: What do we think will be happening at the training ground today? Bollocking for everyone? Arm around the shoulder? Looking at different tactical options? Lots of warcrys and fighting? I hope he just throws all the players into a pit with weapons and whichever 11 are left standing at the end that’s our 11 for the weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, grobs said: What if we play a back 5? Don’t think this would be bad and might free up the wingbacks to provide a bit of attacking threat and maybe two strikers in the box to get on the end of crosses? Martinez Konsa Mings Carlos cash Digne Kamara mcginn Buendia Ings Watkins could swap konsa & mcginn for chambers and luiz and might give archer more opportunity of the bench. Think this time of formation might suit our current crop of players more than what we’ve been playing We practically were against Bournemouth as Kamara dropped into the back line. And as stated in that tactical analysis from Twitter, it was overkill as they only had one striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I hope he just throws all the players into a pit with weapons and whichever 11 are left standing at the end that’s our 11 for the weekend. Who’ve you got? Reckon we’d have to go: Martinez Guilbert Carlos Mings Hause Luiz McGinn Buendia Bailey Davis Archer Edited August 8, 2022 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, ender4 said: What do we think will be happening at the training ground today? Bollocking for everyone? Arm around the shoulder? Looking at different tactical options? Lots of warcrys and fighting? The media team will release a video of shooting practise with just the keeper to beat, like most weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grobs Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, duke313 said: We practically were against Bournemouth as Kamara dropped into the back line. And as stated in that tactical analysis from Twitter, it was overkill as they only had one striker. I suppose, but by having a back 3/5 Kamara wouldn’t need to do that. Just think it makes more sense than trying to play buendia or coutinho on the wing where they are largely ineffective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, grobs said: I suppose, but by having a back 3/5 Kamara wouldn’t need to do that. Just think it makes more sense than trying to play buendia or coutinho on the wing where they are largely ineffective. But then we’d only have two in midfield. The problem was Kamara was too deep, and McGinn was too far forward meaning we were wide open in the middle. The same issue as last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, a m ole said: Who’ve you got? Reckon we’d have to go: Martinez Guilbert Carlos Mings Hause Luiz McGinn Buendia Bailey Davis Archer Nah Guilbert’s French, no way he’s surviving the pit. The South American contingent are a shoe in, after that it depends on who gets the better weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I hope he just throws all the players into a pit with weapons and whichever 11 are left standing at the end that’s our 11 for the weekend. I like it. My bet is Martinez to be last man standing. Mings doesn't enter the pit of course, he has a one on one nunchuk fight with Gerrard instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 50 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Nah Guilbert’s French, no way he’s surviving the pit. The South American contingent are a shoe in, after that it depends on who gets the better weapons. Cash is only fake Eastern European though, and he’s a pretty boy. Can Olsen play right back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 54 minutes ago, rbcuk said: The media team will release a video of shooting practise with just the keeper to beat, like most weeks Rather unsporting of the other teams to actually contest the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Olsen, Augustinsson Only signing he has made under 28 is Kamara compared to Spurs with Bentancur, Kulu, Richarlison, Bissouma, Lenglet, Romero who they made permanent and Djed Spence So our backup keeper and a loan Left back. Bentacur and Bissouma were players we wanted which a section of fans said were shite or overrated. Again, we have a load of youth already on our books and have signed more over the close season. I'll agree with certain things, but the player age jibe is an empty one IMO. What is the average age of our squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Rather unsporting of the other teams to actually contest the ball Well could put them dummy’s in front, but knowing this lot they couldn’t even beat that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: So our backup keeper and a loan Left back. Bentacur and Bissouma were players we wanted which a section of fans said were shite or overrated. Again, we have a load of youth already on our books and have signed more over the close season. I'll agree with certain things, but the player age jibe is an empty one IMO. What is the average age of our squad? I dont really care about the age of the squad its more the quality. Coutinho I wouldnt have signed personally he is finished unless we have the right system that allows him not to move and get involved on the ball Digne another I wouldnt have bought, Rafa saw through him at Everton and have not been convinced by him and we should have went for Hickey who could have been our left back for the next decade# The rest are fine though Carlos needs be partnered with Mings at the back without his presence he will look poor aerially 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, ender4 said: What do we think will be happening at the training ground today? Bollocking for everyone? Arm around the shoulder? Looking at different tactical options? Lots of warcrys and fighting? Gerrard probably ran straight up to Mings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, a m ole said: Who’ve you got? Reckon we’d have to go: Martinez Guilbert Carlos Mings Hause Luiz McGinn Buendia Bailey Davis Archer £50 on McGinn getting stabbed in the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted August 8, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2022 For me, it's increasingly clear that our problem is that we're playing too many players who are naturally number tens. With the ball, we lined up like this against Bournemouth: ----------------------------Martinez----------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------Konsa-------------------------Carlos-------------- ----------------------------Kamara------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cash---------------Ramsey--McGinn----------Digne Bailey---------------------------Coutinho------------------ --------------------------------Ings------------------------------ Here's our problem in a nutshell: Coutinho is a number ten. Buendia is a number ten. McGinn plays for Scotland as a number ten, at best he's an eight/ten. Ramsey plays for England age teams as a number ten, he played for the U23's as a ten, at best he's an eight ten. You can't get away with playing all of those players - you can play one, maybe two of them. Ramsey, Coutinho and McGinn are in each others way - there's no space - Bailey and Cash are wanting to use the same space - nobody is holding the middle of the park, Kamara drops back and everyone else goes forward - it's a complete mess of balance. We've made a system that should either feature Coutinho, or should feature McGinn and Ramsey - we're a mess when we play all three - and that's without adding Buendia into the mix. Bailey was in great form in pre-season, but we don't have a left winger and he's not a better full back than Cash - if you want Bailey, you should also have El Ghazi. We've got a plate with chicken, steak, lamb and ice cream - there's no veg, no potato, no rice, no pasta, it's a f***ing mess. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 That is a top class post @OutByEaster? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 38 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Gerrard probably ran straight up to Mings. Here's how it went... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshVilla Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Watching parts of the Bournemouth game back, what baffles me is how toothless we looked in attack considering who we had on the pitch. We have the players to play quick ball and play it through the middle, yet we were putting in cross after cross against a bigger side. Completely devoid of creativity. It was so easy for Bournemouth to nullify us as the ball was so slow. In his post match, Gerrard said that the loss wasn't down to application. For me, both goals conceded were absolutely down to Bournemouth wanting it more (particularly the second). We need to be quicker all over the pitch. Quicker to loose balls, quicker playing it out from the back, quicker passing around the box. We were so pedestrian it was unreal. I'm going to put it down to the old "you don't want to play a newly promoted side away on the first day" sort of curse. If we don't see a massive improvement vs Everton then I think the pressure will start to mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burchy Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I did some mooching on Transfermarkt with regards to the formations he tended to use when he was at Rangers. Low and behold it was pretty much always a 433 or 4231. Quite where he’s getting this 4321 with the two 10s or the 4312 diamond from is a bit strange. If he went with what he did at Rangers we’d be in a far better shape, literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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