VillaFaninLondon Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, beachboys1 said: young and buendia perhaps thats all we wil get If that's it then we're in trouble. I really can't see the club being that stupid but who knows............. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Just now, VillaFaninLondon said: If that's it then we're in trouble. I really can't see the club being that stupid but who knows............. This is ridiculous negativity. We improved last season on the previous, made great additions who have a season under their belt with the team and Buendia and Young are excellent signings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: This is ridiculous negativity. We improved last season on the previous, made great additions who have a season under their belt with the team and Buendia and Young are excellent signings So you'd be happy with just those 2 signings and no more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: So you'd be happy with just those 2 signings and no more? If we improved again then yes I think so... And then next summer we sign 2 more and improve again As much as we want everything now, 6 players for £200m and a jump in to the EL next season, this is going to be a long term thing, will take ages to crack it, I personally think chuk and Barry will be first team regulars when we challenge for 4th so I'm talking 3 to 4 years away still Edit - with that in mind I still think we could explore the loan market in mid August, get some bodies in that long term will be overtaken by our youngsters Edited July 20, 2021 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: So you'd be happy with just those 2 signings and no more? I would like a couple more cover signings at worst. I'm not going to have a strop about it now. Didn't MON finish 17th and 14th before 3x 6th and several of our players are much better than that squad. Martinez Targett Cash Konsa Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 It's not 'ridiculous negativity' to ask why we're being slow to get deals done. We all want the club to succeed, to succeed they will need to strengthen the team further than they have done already. We have a long term injury (Trez), a first team player off at the Olympics who won't be up to speed for several weeks after the season starts, 3 first team players who got to a final who will be struggling to be fit and firing for the first game of the season too. Several squad players have left the club as their contracts have ended. Clubs don't progress that stand still. You always have to be looking to strengthen and improve, Smith has said this himself. We've improved our first team with Buendia but that's it. Last season when Jack was out our form was very poor which was proof we needed more quality this summer. So far we haven't done enough to address that lack of quality in midfield and the final third. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dappadan Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: It's not 'ridiculous negativity' to ask why we're being slow to get deals done. We all want the club to succeed, to succeed they will need to strengthen the team further than they have done already. We have a long term injury (Trez), a first team player off at the Olympics who won't be up to speed for several weeks after the season starts, 3 first team players who got to a final who will be struggling to be fit and firing for the first game of the season too. Several squad players have left the club as their contracts have ended. Clubs don't progress that stand still. You always have to be looking to strengthen and improve, Smith has said this himself. We've improved our first team with Buendia but that's it. Last season when Jack was out our form was very poor which was proof we needed more quality this summer. So far we haven't done enough to address that lack of quality in midfield and the final third. I think it was the "we are in trouble" comment that comes across as negative. Clearly we still have a good squad with some great talent. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: I would like a couple more cover signings at worst. I'm not going to have a strop about it now. Didn't MON finish 17th and 14th before 3x 6th and several of our players are much better than that squad. Martinez Targett Cash Konsa Watkins We finished 11th and then 3x6th and then Signed the bringer of the apocalypse himself, Stephen Ireland. The rest is history up to the point where it's the present and at that point the rest is the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: I would like a couple more cover signings at worst. I'm not going to have a strop about it now. Didn't MON finish 17th and 14th before 3x 6th and several of our players are much better than that squad. Martinez Targett Cash Konsa Watkins No he finished 11th before three 6th placed finishes. But MON was overrated and not exactly smart in the transfer window. I like our team but there are weaknesses in it and I feel we should be addressing them. That's what all successful teams do. 1-2 cover players + 1-2 first team players. That will be a reasonable expectation, especially with clubs who finished above us starting to drive up their business now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: It's not 'ridiculous negativity' to ask why we're being slow to get deals done. We all want the club to succeed, to succeed they will need to strengthen the team further than they have done already. We have a long term injury (Trez), a first team player off at the Olympics who won't be up to speed for several weeks after the season starts, 3 first team players who got to a final who will be struggling to be fit and firing for the first game of the season too. Several squad players have left the club as their contracts have ended. Clubs don't progress that stand still. You always have to be looking to strengthen and improve, Smith has said this himself. We've improved our first team with Buendia but that's it. Last season when Jack was out our form was very poor which was proof we needed more quality this summer. So far we haven't done enough to address that lack of quality in midfield and the final third. Also I think Young is going to get utilised a lot and to be fair to him, he looks in fabulous condition and still hungry to do well. I’m excited to see how he gets on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post skarroki Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 Having just been to watch Preston in a pre-season game against Bolton I have to say it's incredible we drew 3-3 against that side in Bruce's last game. It is astonishing how far we have come in that people have been turning their noses up at players who wouldn't have entertained the idea of playing for us 2 years ago. Very pleased to be a Villa fan right now and long may it continue. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 We sit pretty low in the pecking order of the transfer system. It is highly likely any targets we have as first choice either have other options that are being looked at first before us, or that otter transfers need to fall into place before we can get who we want. Buendia was easy in that Norwich would sell for a value, we met it. Done. The rest, not so simple. Have some freaking patience people! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Just now, Pissflaps said: We sit pretty low in the pecking order of the transfer system. It is highly likely any targets we have as first choice either have other options that are being looked at first before us, or that otter transfers need to fall into place before we can get who we want. Buendia was easy in that Norwich would sell for a value, we met it. Done. The rest, not so simple. Have some freaking patience people! Someone's trying to start a new trend, I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: So you'd be happy with just those 2 signings and no more? They won't be the only signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, dappadan said: I think it was the "we are in trouble" comment that comes across as negative. Clearly we still have a good squad with some great talent. Fair point, I can use over the top language. I didn't mean we'd be in trouble as in fighting relegation, but in trouble as in potentially standing still. And you can't do that in football. We've clearly got good players and a good team, but just adding Buendia isn't improving the team enough to make great progress again next season. We'll be in and around where we finished last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I think we will sign a goalkeeper, defender, a DM a ACM, and potentially another forward, so that's five players and wouldn't be surprised to see us sign a few youngsters with potential like Caleb Chukwuemeka, Iroegbunam and so on, then maybe one or two more for the U18s, Thierry Small linked if not him perhaps another left back, and we're kind of short on strikers at academy level as well, especially if Young goes out on loan and Barry becomes more involved with the first team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Someone's trying to start a new trend, I see. Autocorrect really let me down there. As usual 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 It’s very possible that the staff have seen the shape Chuk and Barry, perhaps Bradley Young too have come back in after the summer and have readjusted the transfer plans a bit. I’m okay with that, they’re all talented young players and if Smith and the rest of the brain trust think they’re ready to play a part in the first team then I’m all for it. All fans love to see players coming through from the academy. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: Also I think Young is going to get utilised a lot and to be fair to him, he looks in fabulous condition and still hungry to do well. I’m excited to see how he gets on. Young still looks decent and clearly is having played a big part for Inter last season. But at 36 and with his best days for us behind him (when he was fantastic), I don't think he's going to suddenly turn us into a top team. very good squad signing though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaveAV1 Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: otter transfers need to fall into place 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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