Zatman Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Klopp escapes a touchline ban and a pathetic 30k fine. Absolute shambles as usual No wonder refereeing is weak when managers can bully referees and get no punishment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) The utd goal shows just how broken the offside rule now is I get the 2 phase stuff and active and inactive but how is the utd attacker deemed inactive in phase 1? Our defensive shape and more importantly the depth of our line is because of an offside player, us pushing out is because of an offside player Not saying Villa have been done by the ref because that is the rule but like the cash handball a few weeks back the rule is **** stupid and wasn't written by someone who plays football Edited November 6, 2022 by villa4europe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Good decision in the west ham game there Theres contact but no way does that contact cause Antonio to fall over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 Absolutely bizarre in our game. Martinez did about 2/3 red's worth of fouls/violent conduct and didn't even get booked 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted November 6, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 6, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Mark Albrighton said: That's NHL stuff. United should have been down to 9 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) Genuinely no idea how VAR can look at Martinez deliberately elbowing Bailey in the stomach TWICE and do nothing. This is the point of VAR isn’t it? Stuff the onfield ref misses can be dealt with. Edited November 6, 2022 by Genie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Embarrassing yet again today. I thought there were at least 2 reds. It didn’t matter today but it’s one of the reasons we’ve waited 27yrs for today. Disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Surely that will get picked up retrospectively? He had three swings at Bailey. I'm gobsmacked he got away with it in the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 7 hours ago, villa4europe said: The utd goal shows just how broken the offside rule now is I get the 2 phase stuff and active and inactive but how is the utd attacker deemed inactive in phase 1? Our defensive shape and more importantly the depth of our line is because of an offside player, us pushing out is because of an offside player Not saying Villa have been done by the ref because that is the rule but like the cash handball a few weeks back the rule is **** stupid and wasn't written by someone who plays football Thats not what annoyed me because I am sure Eriksen deflected the ball from his hand to Shaw and no replays were shown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 This just sums up how inconsistent they are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 8 hours ago, Demitri_C said: This just sums up how inconsistent they are the problem is that he wasn't reffing both games. He was in communication with the ref (Madley) in the Tottenham game & Madley probably was saying what he saw & England can't "overturn" what Madley saw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2022 8 hours ago, Demitri_C said: This just sums up how inconsistent they are I couldn't believe Spurs didn't get a penalty for that yesterday. I don't even know if it was referred to VAR. One of the most blatant pushes in the back you'll ever see. If that was any club outside the top 4-6 it would have been a penalty, no question 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I couldn't believe Spurs didn't get a penalty for that yesterday. I don't even know if it was referred to VAR. One of the most blatant pushes in the back you'll ever see. If that was any club outside the top 4-6 it would have been a penalty, no question Yeah i agree. I dislike spurs but nloody hell one of the most blatent pens you will see. Your last paragraph- this really does sum it up doesnt it? Blatent corruption/shit officiating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 So,after the Baily elbowing incident I wonder what VAR actually stands for Very Annoying Referee?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 07/11/2022 at 15:39, Villaphan04 said: the problem is that he wasn't reffing both games. He was in communication with the ref (Madley) in the Tottenham game & Madley probably was saying what he saw & England can't "overturn" what Madley saw But if he, in the VAR box, saw it and thought it was a penalty, he can tell the referee that a foul has been committed and its a penalty. Or he can ask the ref to view the footage. The ref can't ignore VAR if they see something the ref has either mis-seen or missed completely. In this case, England obviously didn't flag it as a foul to the ref, even though it was 99% the same as the foul he gave in a game before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MrBlack said: But if he, in the VAR box, saw it and thought it was a penalty, he can tell the referee that a foul has been committed and its a penalty. Or he can ask the ref to view the footage. The ref can't ignore VAR if they see something the ref has either mis-seen or missed completely. In this case, England obviously didn't flag it as a foul to the ref, even though it was 99% the same as the foul he gave in a game before. My first instinct is that it should've been the same as the Spurs one. -- But being able to overturn the call on the pitch? Has to be a clear & obvious error (i think that is still the language used) and has to be in communication with the ref on the pitch, who I would think said that he didn't see it as a foul and it was contact from both players (this is my speculation). That's why I think it was not overturned. He also can't just tell the ref to overturn it, he has to send the ref to the monitor as it's not a clear yes/no decision like offside). -- all this to say that I think it's the wrong call and should've been a red & PK. Edited November 8, 2022 by Villaphan04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 07/11/2022 at 15:44, Stevo985 said: I couldn't believe Spurs didn't get a penalty for that yesterday. I don't even know if it was referred to VAR. One of the most blatant pushes in the back you'll ever see. If that was any club outside the top 4-6 it would have been a penalty, no question Not sure the whole top 4-6 stuff is true tbh. Look at Fulham getting (pretty much the same) at Man City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Quoting myself from the Spanish football thread, as I thought it might better be discussed here: Quote None as of yet at the Estadio de Vallecas tonight, but there have been 58 red cards shown so far in La Liga this season. Premier League? 11. Wow. Source: Sid Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 Don't flag on tight offsides play on and if they score let VAR sort it out There was at least 2 today where they played on and Brighton won a corner, if they scored from those corners VAR does nothing They've broken football Also the guy today was a proper front and centre all about him type ref, we got dirty at the end but he was **** terrible throughout 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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