vreitti Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Not looking good for morgan He'll have to bide his time. He's not played much for a year or so. I'm sure we'll soon find out if he's good enough or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, vreitti said: He'll have to bide his time. He's not played much for a year or so. I'm sure we'll soon find out if he's good enough or not. You could’ve said the exact same thing at any point since the start of his second season with us. Occam’s razor and all, if he isn’t being brought as a sub whatsoever and isn’t even making any appearances in cup games safe to say Emery just doesn’t rate him either and he’ll be gone soon enough. Edited November 13, 2022 by Laughable Chimp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, vreitti said: He'll have to bide his time. He's not played much for a year or so. I'm sure we'll soon find out if he's good enough or not. Not sure mate nit even getting minutes in the cup or league today thats not a good sign for him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Where would he have been the better sub today? On for Digne and move Young to LB? No. On instead of the more defensively-minded Dendoncker? Not what we needed at the time. Just because he didn't come on today doesn't explicitly mean he has no future here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: You could’ve said the exact same thing at any point since the start of his second season with us. Occam’s razor and all, if he isn’t being brought as a sub whatsoever and isn’t even making any appearances in cup games safe to say Emery just doesn’t rate him either and he’ll be gone soon enough. He’s talked positively about him in practice and gave him his first game time in a year (in which he looked good). Why wouldn’t there be some possibility of a positive ending to this situation? Edited November 13, 2022 by Aston_Villan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I don’t think we can take anything out of these games, three tough games, two away. New management and needing more confidence. You could see tactical and name changes each game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: He’s talked positively about him in practice and gave him his first game time in a year (in which he looked good). Why wouldn’t there be some possibility of a positive ending to this situation? Possibility? Yeah sure there could be a good ending. I just think its unlikely with the circumstances. If a player isn’t making any appearances at all and there’s no fitness issues, chances are he just isn’t favored. And one of them was a cup game where he even played Olsen so lets not act like Emery didn’t want to field anything less than a full strength sixe Also can we just stop taking the word of managers seriously? Its impossible to know what they’re saying is truly their opinions or them just giving generic answers in order to not rock the boat. Many times the words of managers often contradict their actions. Case in point, Unai was asked about what he thought about Sanson, he’s hardly gonna say he thinks hes **** shit is he? Edited November 13, 2022 by Laughable Chimp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Possibility? Yeah sure there could be a good ending. I just think its unlikely with the circumstances. If a player isn’t making any appearances at all and there’s no fitness issues, chances are he just isn’t favored. And one of them was a cup game where he even played Olsen so lets not act like Emery didn’t want to field anything less than a full strength sixe Also can we just stop taking the word of managers seriously? Its impossible to know what they’re saying is truly their opinions or them just giving generic answers in order to not rock the boat. Many times the words of managers often contradict their actions. Case in point, Unai was asked about what he thought about Sanson, he’s hardly gonna say he thinks hes **** shit is he? So you don’t think he was honest or serious when he said this? “He’s done very well in the days that we have been in the training ground. I knew him when he was playing in Marseille when I was in Paris. I think he’s a good player,” said Emery. “He was injured and out of matches. I think he can help us. Against United, for example, in the last minute, he kept the position he usually plays and his skills were good to help us,” he added. Edited November 13, 2022 by Aston_Villan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: Occam’s razor Does he play for Villareal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 hours ago, a-k said: Where would he have been the better sub today? On for Digne and move Young to LB? No. On instead of the more defensively-minded Dendoncker? Not what we needed at the time. Just because he didn't come on today doesn't explicitly mean he has no future here Why didn't get minutes against United? Something is amiss with Samson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 It looks to me as though Emery had tried to give as many players that he can to showcase what they can do in a very short space of time - I am fully expecting him to play a big role between now and the end of season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2022 58 minutes ago, Xela said: Does he play for Villareal? He sounds like a ankle breaking centre half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Aston_Villan4 said: He’s talked positively about him in practice and gave him his first game time in a year (in which he looked good). Why wouldn’t there be some possibility of a positive ending to this situation? Gerrard said the same thing when he came in, " everyone gets a clean slate", he also said he had been impressed with Sansom when Rangers played Marseille. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Xela said: Does he play for Villareal? Occams Razor? Yeah. Sort of a no-nonsense defender who likes to keep things simple. Edited November 13, 2022 by El Zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Has to be either: A - He's simply not good enough (I struggle to see this mind) B - He has an attitude problem, or there's a problem with his mentality C - Unai has seen he's currently nowhere near sharp enough, and will use this WC break to get him as close to match fitness as possible (Ayesteran should be ideal for this, Carragher (yeah, I know) said he was the best fitness coach he'd ever had) so he can start using him as an actual part of the squad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Has to be either: A - He's simply not good enough (I struggle to see this mind) B - He has an attitude problem, or there's a problem with his mentality C - Unai has seen he's currently nowhere near sharp enough, and will use this WC break to get him as close to match fitness as possible (Ayesteran should be ideal for this, Carragher (yeah, I know) said he was the best fitness coach he'd ever had) so he can start using him as an actual part of the squad Despite him not featuring on Thursday, I would’ve said it’s probably something along the lines of option C, however it’s a little bit strange that he hasn’t featured at all since his cameo last Sunday. I’d say that if he doesn’t feature at all in any of the Xmas fixtures then he’s probably close to the end of his time at the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 56 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: Why didn't get minutes against United? Something is amiss with Samson. Possibly his hair, maybe he should grow it out to regain his strength. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Emery out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, sheepyvillian said: Gerrard said the same thing when he came in, " everyone gets a clean slate", he also said he had been impressed with Sansom when Rangers played Marseille. Go figure. Gerrard also said no one is safe, even McGinn could lose his place and the captaincy if they didn’t play well. We saw how that turned out, I usually ignore scam artists like Gerrard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Has to be either: A - He's simply not good enough (I struggle to see this mind) B - He has an attitude problem, or there's a problem with his mentality C - Unai has seen he's currently nowhere near sharp enough, and will use this WC break to get him as close to match fitness as possible (Ayesteran should be ideal for this, Carragher (yeah, I know) said he was the best fitness coach he'd ever had) so he can start using him as an actual part of the squad Probably A - Both he and Dean Smith said that he struggled with the tempo and physicallity of the Premier League, then he got injured. Though described as a warrior he is a bit thin and short. He has looked lively in his short cameos, but also a bit weak. Technically and footballing-wise he is probably good enough for a mid table PL-team, physically and mentally the verdict is still out. He is now on his third manager so lets see. My guess is that he on the whole is about as good as what we've seen now, deserves a place on the bench, some cameos and to start a game against weaker teams now and then. I would have loved to see him in this inverted winger role and see what he could do. Would have been interesting to see him instead of McGinn there, but as we wanted to grind out a result away I can't complain with us playng McGinn there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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