KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 34 minutes ago, mjmooney said: As good a place as any for this. UK derbies, ranked by hostility: Not on topic but why is Crystal Palace and Brighton classed as a derby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 12 minutes ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: Not on topic but why is Crystal Palace and Brighton classed as a derby? Remember seeing something on Football Focus when they were doing a bit on Brighton when they first came up. Apparently they had some clashes years ago where they were competing for lower league titles/promotions so it made them rivals. So its more a rivalry than a Derby like the other more traditional ones. Personally I'd see something like the 2 Bristols or MK Dons & AFC Wimbledon being more appropriate for the graphic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 16 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16 16 minutes ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: Not on topic but why is Crystal Palace and Brighton classed as a derby? “rivalry” is how I would describe it. In the 70’s they were both vying for the same promotion spots, Alan Mullery and Terry Venables were managers of Brighton & Palace respectively, it sounds like they didn’t get on with each other (former team mates), a feisty game or two that carried on over…a few factors seemingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: As good a place as any for this. UK derbies, ranked by hostility: The Black Country was delayed this season when it descended into crowd trouble, no? By contrast the scouse derby always seems pretty reasonably-natured, I can't recall hearing about crowd trouble though I'm sure it's happened at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Annoyman Posted May 16 Popular Post Share Posted May 16 No derby that's allowed to kick off at a normal time by the police should be top half imo Spurs and Arsenal is mostly just people mithering on twitter isn't it? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I think the regularity of the fixtures or shared respect for tragedies (Hillsborough, the young lad who was sh0t etc.) make the merseyside rivalry fairly friendly now. Some of our other midlands ones (us vs Baggies) have more animosity than Liverpool/Everton these days 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 When both clubs actually reside within the same City, it will inevitably cause that rivalry to be more intense. That proximity to each other can engender a febrile intensity. No way do those rivalries between Newcastle and Sunderland, or Nottingham and Derby even come close to us and the noses. I think only Celtic and Rangers top us for hostility. But there are other non football factors at play there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 16 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16 That graphic has made me realise I hadn’t registered what Bristol Rovers club badge looks like. I have no idea what I thought it looked like, but not that anyway. It left me wondering when they changed it to a pirate. Turns out it was around 1997. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 hours ago, Annoyman said: No derby that's allowed to kick off at a normal time by the police should be top half imo Spurs and Arsenal is mostly just people mithering on twitter isn't it? mithering Love it, haven't heard that word used in a long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 hours ago, meregreen said: When both clubs actually reside within the same City, it will inevitably cause that rivalry to be more intense. That proximity to each other can engender a febrile intensity. No way do those rivalries between Newcastle and Sunderland, or Nottingham and Derby even come close to us and the noses. I think only Celtic and Rangers top us for hostility. But there are other non football factors at play there. Not sure I agree on Newcastle v Sunderland. My wife’s from the north east and we spend a fair bit of time up there. They absolutely hate one another and derby days are a complete war zone - not that dissimilar to Villa - SHA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 16 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16 5 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: The Black Country was delayed this season when it descended into crowd trouble, no? By contrast the scouse derby always seems pretty reasonably-natured, I can't recall hearing about crowd trouble though I'm sure it's happened at some point. I was going to say I don't agree with that derby there. They don't like each other much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 6 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: The Black Country was delayed this season when it descended into crowd trouble, no? By contrast the scouse derby always seems pretty reasonably-natured, I can't recall hearing about crowd trouble though I'm sure it's happened at some point. I've always thought Wolves Baggies was one of the most intense derbies. Some real shit has gone down over the years, certainly compared to some of the others on that list. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob182 Posted May 16 Popular Post Share Posted May 16 1 minute ago, turnbull said: I've always thought Wolves Baggies was one of the most intense derbies. Some real shit has gone down over the years, certainly compared to some of the others on that list. Real shit football 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Just now, Rob182 said: Real shit football And that, yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Surely Millwall and West Ham is S rank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted May 17 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted May 17 So Tom Brady invested a total of 3.3p into the club? 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 19 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: So Tom Brady invested a total of 3.3p into the club? But they are proppa shares mate. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted May 17 VT Supporter Share Posted May 17 23 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: So Tom Brady invested a total of 3.3p into the club? He's just a figurehead though right? They basically gave him some free shares as a gift to be "the face" of the club surely? This doesn't on the face of it seem especially unusual to me, albeit I don't really know much about the whole situation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 17 Moderator Share Posted May 17 9 hours ago, stuart_75 said: But they are proppa shares mate. Well, now you mention it, they're not, they're a different category to the proper shares and they don't have any voting rights. It looks like they just gave him 3.5% of the club as payment for putting his face out front. From his perspective it isn't a bad deal; you get given a tiny chunk of a company that's not worth much, you increase its value by having your famous name and face associated with it and then when you sell up your 3% generates you a nice profit. It does make me wonder though, how long are they looking to be involved? Tom won't have taken that deal on the promise of money in ten or fifteen years time you'd have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: Well, now you mention it, they're not, they're a different category to the proper shares and they don't have any voting rights. It looks like they just gave him 3% of the club as payment for putting his face out front. From his perspective it isn't a bad deal; you get given a tiny chunk of a company that's not worth much, you increase its value by having your famous name and face associated with it and then when you sell up your 3% generates you a nice profit. It does make me wonder though, how long are they looking to be involved? Tom won't have taken that deal on the promise of money in ten or fifteen years time you'd have thought. The only time Brady has been associated with failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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