Xann Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 https://www.pornhub.com/insights/transgender-searches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Where I'm staying the boss and her boss and the area manager came out to the garden for fresh air. They come over and had a chat. I had those two porn hub maps on full screen, God knows what they thought. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted March 19 VT Supporter Share Posted March 19 Was browsing Reddit over the weekend and saw a thread where a mum had been asked by their child to destroy every photo of them before they'd transitioned as they were painful reminders. An added complexity in this was that some of them contained pictures of the father who is now deceased. It's a side that I hadn't even considered as I'd always seen it as something going forwards in time and not reaching back. Whilst I hope that I would support my son if he ever went through this (it's their life to do so as they wish), I'm not sure how I'd feel getting rid of 20 odd years worth of family photo's to try and support. It'd be like getting rid of 20 year's of my own life and my own history. Photo's and videos of our family holidays are some of my most precious items and memories. Would have to hope that some sort of compromise could be reached. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted March 19 VT Supporter Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Rds1983 said: Was browsing Reddit over the weekend and saw a thread where a mum had been asked by their child to destroy every photo of them before they'd transitioned as they were painful reminders. An added complexity in this was that some of them contained pictures of the father who is now deceased. It's a side that I hadn't even considered as I'd always seen it as something going forwards in time and not reaching back. Whilst I hope that I would support my son if he ever went through this (it's their life to do so as they wish), I'm not sure how I'd feel getting rid of 20 odd years worth of family photo's to try and support. It'd be like getting rid of 20 year's of my own life and my own history. Photo's and videos of our family holidays are some of my most precious items and memories. Would have to hope that some sort of compromise could be reached. Had a chat to a transgender lady at work a few months back. Basically that person is dead to them. Asking questions like "what was your name before?" Should not be asked etc. But asking to destroy family photos is quite an extreme and agree you'd hope a compromise would be possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wainy316 Posted March 19 Popular Post Share Posted March 19 To ask a parent to destroy all baby and childhood photos of their child is as cruel as a parent not accepting their transitioned child. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted March 19 VT Supporter Share Posted March 19 (edited) 22 minutes ago, tomav84 said: Had a chat to a transgender lady at work a few months back. Basically that person is dead to them. Asking questions like "what was your name before?" Should not be asked etc. But asking to destroy family photos is quite an extreme and agree you'd hope a compromise would be possible Yeah, I think I got that the previous person would be viewed as dead but not that they'd want to be erased if that makes sense. My son is my son, he is who he is, if he later decides to become a her or whoever, then that's upto him. But he'll always be my kid and I want to be able to cherish the time with him when he's little and photo's help with that. I already look back at baby pics. The thread on reddit even went further than I aluded to. The mum had got rid of all photo's except one which was up in the hallway as it had the Dad in it. However the Dad had a tattoo on his arm of the kid's previous name and this was visible.in the photo and the child objected to this. I think the child had some issues with the Dad before he died (he wasn't accepting of the change) and this added to it. Was an interesting and thought provoking read. Edited March 19 by Rds1983 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Rds1983 said: Yeah, I think I got that the previous person would be viewed as dead but not that they'd want to be erased if that makes sense. My son is my son, he is who he is, if he later decides to become a her or whoever, then that's upto him. But he'll always be my kid and I want to be able to cherish the time with him when he's little and photo's help with that. I already look back at baby pics. The thread on reddit even went further than I aluded to. The mum had got rid of all photo's except one which was up in the hallway as it had the Dad in it. However the Dad had a tattoo on his arm of the kid's previous name and this was visible.in the photo and the child objected to this. I think the child had some issues with the Dad before he died (he wasn't accepting of the change) and this added to it. Was an interesting and thought provoking read. There was an interesting debate about this regarding Wikipedia, and what should be done in the instance where someone becomes famous and / or achieves notable things and then subsequently changes gender. If I recall correctly, Wikipedia's policy is to update the name of the article to the new name and gender, but leave in place a redirect from the old name and note it in the article - e.g. Caitlyn Jenner (born Bruce Jenner) etc. Trans activists were calling this hurtful and unreasonable deadnaming, and campaigning it to be changed. Wikipedia's stance is that many people might be searching for the name under which the person did their notable achievements, and being unable to find them because they weren't aware that they had transitioned (or just weren't sure what their new name was) wasn't really acceptable when the point of Wikipedia is that it's a repository of knowledge. I found myself pondering that for a while. I think ultimately I come down on the side of Wikipedia here, and it's perhaps a bit unreasonable to expect society to expunge all memory of your previous identity, but I can certainly see where both sides are coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 You can’t just erase history, no matter how painful it may be to the individual. It’s daft frankly, I’m very ‘live and let live’ when it comes to the wider debate on gender etc these days but I can’t help but think that the ‘movement’ doesn’t help itself sometimes. If you want to pretend that the first 15-20 years of your life didn’t happen then so be it, but don’t expect the world to facilitate the fantasy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 In general I'd refer to something or someone as it was at the time. Star of Hard Candy - Ellen Page Royal Rumble 2002 - A WWF (not WWE) event I'mn ot sure what the done thing is meant to be but obviously the first example is a much more emotive issue. Caitlyn Jenner does refer to herself as Bruce/him when discussing themself in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted March 19 VT Supporter Share Posted March 19 I guess there's no right answer that makes everybody happy everytime. Just need to try and listen to other people's point of view, have an open mind and try to compromise. If anyone figure's out how to make this work for the world at large, let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 The right wing culture warriors are furious that today is trans gender awareness day, and how dare the trannies blaspheme like this on Easter of all days. Doesnt take into account that’s its 31st march every year and Easter can be one of about 50 days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 13 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: The right wing culture warriors are furious that today is trans gender awareness day, and how dare the trannies blaspheme like this on Easter of all days. Doesnt take into account that’s its 31st march every year and Easter can be one of about 50 days. How did March 31st become trans awareness day? Is there any reason why it is today, or was it just a date that was plucked out of the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 43 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: How did March 31st become trans awareness day? Is there any reason why it is today, or was it just a date that was plucked out of the air? Back in 2008 it was started, a bit like black history month or other days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Is your signature your preferred pronouns? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 16 hours ago, leemond2008 said: How did March 31st become trans awareness day? Is there any reason why it is today, or was it just a date that was plucked out of the air? It seems like it was plucked out of the air by an activist. There is a bit of backstory here: Quote Crandall-Crocker said she chose the springtime date because she wanted some distance from Transgender Day of Remembrance as well as Pride Month, which is in June. https://www.npr.org/2024/03/30/1241589753/transgender-day-of-visibility-rachel-crandall-crocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 13 hours ago, colhint said: Is your signature your preferred pronouns? Are you asking @StefanAVFC Who actually to gives a shit about these type of awareness days, apart from the trans people themselves and the activists. What a load of bollocks. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Yeah it was a crap attempt at a joke, you know I'm a he him or a she her. I noticed his Your You're and There They're. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 10 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Are you asking @StefanAVFC Who actually to gives a shit about these type of awareness days, apart from the trans people themselves and the activists. What a load of bollocks. You seem to! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted April 1 VT Supporter Share Posted April 1 (edited) On 19/03/2024 at 14:21, tomav84 said: Had a chat to a transgender lady at work a few months back. Basically that person is dead to them. Asking questions like "what was your name before?" Should not be asked etc. But asking to destroy family photos is quite an extreme and agree you'd hope a compromise would be possible What compromise? bringing a child into the world is probably the most emotional thing that has happened to virtually every couple that have lived. To ask for the photos to be destroyed and take away those memories is selfish and wrong. Edited April 1 by Follyfoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 On 31/03/2024 at 14:19, StefanAVFC said: The right wing culture warriors are furious that today is trans gender awareness day, and how dare the trannies blaspheme like this on Easter of all days. Doesnt take into account that’s its 31st march every year and Easter can be one of about 50 days. I'd like to know what gender the Easter Bunny is before we go any further tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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