villalad21 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) They are at it again folks. They are brewing their own master plan to become just unbelievably rich so there is no chance for the smaller clubs to compete with them. Full story here: https://news.sky.com/story/top-english-clubs-in-bombshell-talks-to-join-european-premier-league-12109175 Quote "A $6bn (£4.6bn) financing package is being drawn up to back the launch of a new European Premier League, Sky News can reveal." "Liverpool and Manchester United are in talks about a bombshell plot involving Europe's biggest football clubs to join a new FIFA-backed tournament that would reshape the sport's global landscape." "As many as five English clubs could sign up to join it, with a provisional start date said to have been discussed as early as 2022." Edited October 20, 2020 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I actually can't see the German teams joining this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, NoelVilla said: I actually can't see the German teams joining this. Their fan ownership model certainly makes it interesting. No doubt Leipzig would sign up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) The fact that Man United are involved show that it's all about money rather than sporting merit. I'm all for it, as long as the English teams who join are permanently disqualified from domestic competition. Quote As part of that blueprint, the founder clubs could not be relegated for 20 years, although the remaining teams would be subject to being replaced depending upon their league position at the end of each season. Honestly, **** these clubs. Edited October 20, 2020 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter Lichfield Dean Posted October 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2020 And away games? Are fans expected to travel abroad for half a season's worth of games? Is that going to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lichfield Dean said: And away games? Are fans expected to travel abroad for half a season's worth of games? Is that going to work? Fans in the stadiums are only an inconvenience. It's the TV audience in Asia, America and the middle east that matters. This format will no doubt introduce time outs, power breaks, more substitutions and maybe 3 periods instead of 2 halves. Gotta cram as much commercials in as possible and the US crowd gets bored easily. Games will start at 12 or 14 to suit the Asian market and games will be played in China, Qatar and the US. Edited October 20, 2020 by sne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lichfield Dean said: And away games? Are fans expected to travel abroad for half a season's worth of games? Is that going to work? Who gives a shit about fans that go to games? You know the PPV model that'[s started this season? Buckle up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter Rodders Posted October 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2020 **** them off. Off you **** Liverpool and Manchester. Get in the sea. Sod off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jareth Posted October 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 They should go for it, lift all limits on player nationality and FFP and have a mahoosive multibillion quid footballing ding dong. Then back in a real football league it should be made clear that the teams which leave, can never return. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visiting Supporter Popular Post Rino8 Posted October 20, 2020 Visiting Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 Let them go. Exclude them from the domestic leagues. Have fun guys. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted October 20, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 There are three main problems in football according to these teams: 1. Because the Premier league is so rich, the gap between it and the Championship is humungous - and anyone with ambitions in the Championship has to reach beyond their limits to have a hope of being promoted and doing anything - that sends a ripple down to league one and two and those teams are starting to go bust, making the 'big six' look bad and catching the eye of politicians who might get all legislative. 2. Because the Premier league is so rich, the gap between the players that the top teams can afford and the players that the other teams can afford is smaller and now there are teams like Leicester and Everton and maybe us and maybe Wolves and maybe a takeover Newcastle that might poke their nose into the top four and steal some of the TV money - this cannot be allowed - it's worth remembering that a top team's chairman actually opened a Premier league meeting asking all the other Chairmen how they could "avoid another Leicester".. 3. They're not allowed to tap directly into their large TV following and have to keep sharing the TV money with other teams, which they consider unfair, because Leeds for example have only been in the league five minutes but get to have a vote on stuff and no one wants to watch Burnley anyway. Their three solutions are: 1. "Big picture" move some of the money from the Premier league away from the Premier league and into the lower leagues. Not their money you understand, the money from the other teams, the ones that don't have the biggest TV audiences, those that aren't "contributing to the wealth", like Leeds or Newcastle or Everton or Villa. Which also helps with..... 2. Guaranteeing European League qualification - which would be easier if they'd been allowed to push through "Big Picture" and defund those bottom two thirds of the Premier league - but now means they might have to work at it from the other end and just do away with qualification, putting themselves into a European league and shutting the door behind them, thus securing that income on an ongoing basis and removing the corporate horror of having to win football matches in order to make sure. 3. PPV - this is the one that people aren't angry enough about - they're trialling this with a view towards sneaking it through - it means that whilst Albion and Burnley might make a loss on last night's game, a Liverpool vs United one might make Liverpool £100m all on its own. It's absolutely vital that the league, the FSA, supporters generally and the media don't let them get away with this one. Collectively shared TV money with merit payments is keeping this league alive. Better solutions: 1. Give a proportion of the TV deal to the lower leagues - before it's divided up - so that the overall pot for the Premier league reduces and is then spread by merit across the Premier league, with enough money given to the Championship to make it viable. When the opportunity arises, try to synchronise the TV deals so that the Championship one isn't quite so shite. 2. When a team finishes in the European positions, they should qualify, when they don't they shouldn't. More teams involved in the battle for these places is a good thing for football, it lets fans of teams like Newcastle and Wolves and us dream - it should be possible, that's desirable in sporting terms. When Man Utd don't qualify, they should tighten their belt, stfu and get on with it. 3. PPV - allow PPV and let teams take advantage of the ability to put more games on but add the revenue into the collective pot and then spread it in line with the merit payments - so if Utd raise an extra £300m - Burnley and Albion get a chunk of it - and push a percentage of it down into the lower leagues - so when a million people in the US buy Liverpool vs Man Utd, some of the benefit goes to Macclesfield, because what we're selling is English football, not the Man Utd - Liverpool show. Job done. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I didn't think I could fall further out of love with football, and then this crap turns up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The founding teams can’t be replaced for 20 years... yes 20 years! Franchise football here we come! Welcome to The NSL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Unfortunately fans around the world are a stupid bunch of fools who are going to lap this up. Unfortunately FIFA are involved so I hope that the World Cup is boycotted by the FA etc. When the domestic leagues realise that only a few clubs can take part in this league and their revenues drop down they might actually boycott the FIFA tournaments. Hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter sidcow Posted October 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2020 Any football association who sanctions this need their entire executive committee sacking. It's clearly designed to create a close shop of mega clubs. That is ONLY good for them and the entire rest of football will suffer. That has to be against the memorandum of any football association, it has to be for the betterment of football as a whole. I also note that they are saddling themselves with £6bn of debt to set this up. £6bn.......It had better work or they will be FUBAR. I have no interest in Champions League football as Villa aren't involved. I wouldn't spend a single penny to watch it. I know millions will but I do wonder how quickly people will just get bored of it. Any league with no promotion or relegation will inevitably stagnate and also teams like Spuds and Arsenal will eventually just become the whipping boys as they will just be small fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The people’s game though apparently. Let them go and take all the plastics with them, wouldn’t be missed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Even for these teams, where's the excitement? Only one team can win, no battles for survival, no derbies, nothing else to challenge for (CL, EL, cups), no unexpected upsets. Terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter sidcow Posted October 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2020 You know when we invented the Football League. Did we... you know.... decide who we wanted to invite to play in our league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 **** off then you pair of red shirted scum. And don't come grovelling back either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I'd let them rejoin at the bottom rung so National League. Also how would the promotion/relegation even work? If you won your domestic league do you have to hope a English team finishes bottom of the SKY SPORTS EURO ELITE LEAGUE to get promoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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