bannedfromHandV Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 5 hours ago, R.Bear said: Who can forget those great Villa European nights like losing at home MSK Zilina in a half empty stadium with Salifou, Osborne and Delfouneso starting. Halcyon days at the Villa. I remember great nights against Ajax and going back much further Atletico Madrid in the same competition (essentially). Seems to be doing okay for Spurs so it’s good enough for us, it’s also a clear sign of massive progression. Yes it throws up a challenge juggling that and the league and domestic cups but it’s worth it for the added prestige, plus winning it these days qualifies you for the champs league the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 While I understand Europa Cup may not be an attraction ... realistically will Villa get to the Champions league by-passing this stage of competition? I might agree we don't want to get there before there is a stronger team in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 36 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: I was there against Ajax, it was one of the best Villa Park moments of my life. Inject that shit in my veins. Beating Ajax at home in a Europa League group stage game was one of the best VP moments of your life? An Ajax side who finished 3rd in the Dutch league? We limped through the group then sent the kids to Russia to get knocked out. That was over a decade ago, it's even worse now. The Europa League is only of any use if you win it and with our horrendous European record in the PL era, its fair to say that we won't get anywhere near doing that. Only 32k people turned up to that Ajax game so for the most part, the fans dont give a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth Posted December 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2020 40/1 now for relegation. Which means if you put £10 on Villa to be relegated, you will lose £10. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, fruitvilla said: While I understand Europa Cup may not be an attraction ... realistically will Villa get to the Champions league by-passing this stage of competition? I might agree we don't want to get there before there is a stronger team in place? Won't be easy to win it. My brother supports Spurs and he wants them to win the UL, but it's been a slog just to get to the knockout. Luckily they have 2 very good XI's, something we don't quite have yet. That's not to mention the 3rd place teams dropping from the CL into the knockout rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 It’s actually amazing the difference a win or a loss makes right now. The league is so so open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Wolves got to the quarters last season and in terms of numbers their squad is smaller than what we have currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Heaton Elmo Engels Hause Taylor Nakamba El Ghazi Ramsey Hourihane Traore Wesley — We’d definitely need to add a bit of quality, but Europa League would keep things very competitive for our second eleven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Wolves got to the quarters last season and in terms of numbers their squad is smaller than what we have currently. How is this possibly true. Our bench is weak and we've had one striker in the match day squad for most games this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 31 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Wolves got to the quarters last season and in terms of numbers their squad is smaller than what we have currently. And look at them now. Languishing in mid-table with their star players no doubt on the brink of requesting transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rolta said: How is this possibly true. Our bench is weak and we've had one striker in the match day squad for most games this season! They were playing practically the same XI in the league and EL because their squad was small. We can rotate a few players, even though there would be a dropoff in quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rolta said: How is this possibly true. Our bench is weak and we've had one striker in the match day squad for most games this season! Yeah but today we had not one but TWO right backs on the bench, beat that Wolves. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, R.Bear said: Beating Ajax at home in a Europa League group stage game was one of the best VP moments of your life? An Ajax side who finished 3rd in the Dutch league? We limped through the group then sent the kids to Russia to get knocked out. That was over a decade ago, it's even worse now. The Europa League is only of any use if you win it and with our horrendous European record in the PL era, its fair to say that we won't get anywhere near doing that. Only 32k people turned up to that Ajax game so for the most part, the fans dont give a shit. One of the best? Absolutely. What are yours? If you think the psyche of Villa fans now, is the same as then, you're deluded. We've had a decade of derision. For us to be in Europe in the next season or two, given where we've been, would be a monumental achievement. And the fans would feed off that. Tell the Seville fans the Europa League is even worse now. They won't agree. There's no point in football, or even sport, if you don't want to progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: Tell the Seville fans the Europa League is even worse now. They won't agree. There's no point in football, or even sport, if you don't want to progress. Sevilla are a freak of nature and as I said, the only time the Europa League is useful is if you win it, something they are masters at. The Europa League isn't progress. It's a detriment. Remind me how bombing out to Rapid Vienna twice in two years made progress. If it wasnt for Darren Bent, we would have been relegated 6 months later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 2 hours ago, R.Bear said: Beating Ajax at home in a Europa League group stage game was one of the best VP moments of your life? An Ajax side who finished 3rd in the Dutch league? We limped through the group then sent the kids to Russia to get knocked out. That was over a decade ago, it's even worse now. The Europa League is only of any use if you win it and with our horrendous European record in the PL era, its fair to say that we won't get anywhere near doing that. Only 32k people turned up to that Ajax game so for the most part, the fans dont give a shit. I loved that win over Ajax to be fair. Attendance I can see online is 36k which for a midweek game isn’t bad. And those Villa fans were as loud as I’ve heard at Villa Park when we scored in that game. I think a lot of the players from the time look back very fondly on that game too and given that we won a lot of games at the time that’s saying something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2020 So now we are turning our noses up at the Europa League....... ........ Alrighty then.... 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: So now we are turning our noses up at the Europa League....... ........ Alrighty then.... Yes like we did in 2009. It's not about turning our noses up because we think we're too good for it. It's because being in that competition has no discernible benefits whatsoever. People can stamp their feet all they like but we've "turned our noses up" at the League and FA Cups many times in the last 20 years. Wake up gentleman, all that matters for now is staying in the Premier League. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, R.Bear said: Yes like we did in 2009. It's not about turning our noses up because we think we're too good for it. It's because being in that competition has no discernible benefits whatsoever. People can stamp their feet all they like but we've "turned our noses up" at the League and FA Cups many times in the last 20 years. Wake up gentleman, all that matters for now is staying in the Premier League. What even is the point of football then? That sounds depressing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Keyblade said: What even is the point of football then? That sounds depressing. Yes because the last 10 years has been nothing but joy for Villa fans. We're all saddled with this team for life. I can take not winning trophies and being mediocre but I dont ever want to experience stuff like the last 5 mins of that playoff final where I thought I was going to have a heart attack. I never want to suffer relegation again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted December 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, R.Bear said: Yes because the last 10 years has been nothing but joy for Villa fans. We're all saddled with this team for life. I can take not winning trophies and being mediocre but I dont ever want to experience stuff like the last 5 mins of that playoff final where I thought I was going to have a heart attack. I never want to suffer relegation again. Those last 5 minutes were the most exhilarating 5 minutes I can remember as a Villa fan. That's what football is about. I'd shudder to think about how disillusioned with football I'd get if we were never fighting for anything. The last 2 years have been brilliant. Last season, last day of the season, the nerves were unreal. That's what it's all about! You have to be fighting for something and trying to progress, otherwise what's the point? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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