Ratings & Reactions: Villa v Man Utd

[theboyangel]

2 minutes ago, Robtaylor200 said:

DS is in total denial FO

I don't care what he says to the press but I hope he's honest with the players and gives them a rocket up their arses. 

It was a shocking, yet typical decision gone against us but players and coaching staff cannot blame the result on it or stop trying after it. 

We look devoid of confidence and capability in the latter third of the pitch and don't see where a goal is going to come from. 

We have Palace and Everton next and would usually look at gaining 4 points but now I'd be shocked if we managed a clean sheet. 

 

[Robtaylor200]

Just now, Herman22 said:

I think DS has to make some big decisions. For me the first would be to drop Jack. He's a passenger at the moment and Conor brings so much more to the team. Maybe fire him up and bring him on second half. 

The only decision he needs to make is how to leave. 

[WakefieldVillan]

Can't really comment too much. I switched off at HT. Was dreading it could be 6. 

For the part I watched, which I understand will be completely different to many other reviews, was that we were the better team for 30 mind and unlucky not to be 1 up with the Grealish miss and more so with Trez's shot off the post. 

I am not saying we would have won this game, its 'Villa v United' after all.. but that "penalty" was a complete game-changer and was an absolute joke of a decision, compounded by no overturning from VAR. F**king scandalous. But this is what the premier league has become. 

Then to go compound the misery we concede from our own fault (Mings) last kick of the half. Was so obvious that would happen.

I thought Konsa was our best player (remember I only watched 45) but he put in 3 terrific crosses. And Luiz looked decent again. By all accounts he's the MOTM again. Fair play to him. I agree with other comments, be a shame to see him leave.

What I've obviously missed in the second half is that the team showed no fight and no desire and basically that was that. That's very concerning but doesn't surprise me. We're the most fragile team in the league. 

4 games left to save our season. 

[Derryvillan]

I'm used to seeing Utd beat us,they've had better players than us for years.Tonight instead of using the pen injustice to rev us up we hid in our shell.Ive never seen zonal marking during open play before,dont think it'll catch on.

[nick76]

3 minutes ago, jim said:

And pretty much admitted we threw in the towel. Unbelievable,

Penalty was awful, but he shouldve forget about that straight away and focus on getting back in the game but neither him or the team did.  No discussion how bad we played apart from a pop at Mings for the second goal.  

[Jimzk5]

22 minutes ago, Farlz said:

Heads went after the penalty decision, they didn't give a shit after that. 

Which is disgusting really, shouldn't they be busting a bollock to right that wrong

[Paul33]

At 9-1 against, we were not supposed to win this one but we ARE supposed to be fighting for our lives and we do not give that impression. I love Jack but, in all honesty, he is a shite captain who shows no passion and no encouragement for his team mates. Does he actually EVER  talk to his team mates ? He is supposed to be a leader and he comes across as a sulky kid playing for the name on the back of his shirt rather than the badge on the front.

I wish Smith would sub Jack or even leave him on the bench just to make a point. The only good thing about his performances and attitude is that there is no way any half decent club will sign him ...... not even for £8M let alone £80M !!!

Edited July 9, 2020 by Paul33

[AVFCDAN]

What is it 3 points from 16 games? Absolutely disgusting.

How anyone can defend Dean Smith I really don’t know, get rid now! There is so much better out there, he’s had his chance and spectacularly failed at it, at least Norwich have an excuse that they didn’t even spend any money, we let Dean waste 130 million on nothing.

Sell Mings, Grealish and McGinn and start again, this squad is going to be damaged goods next year, we need a new 11 basically.

[tonyh29]

OGS saying it was a clear pen on sky 

**** off you word removed 

[Robtaylor200]

Enough is enough. Good night lads, we can do all it again Sunday.

Sometimes I wish my dad had supported some other team. 

[jim]

3 minutes ago, nick76 said:

Penalty was awful, but he shouldve forget about that straight away and focus on getting back in the game but neither him or the team did.  No discussion how bad we played apart from a pop at Mings for the second goal.  

I know I’ve been vocal about my dislike for him but that interview disgusted me.
 

I can accept losing but throwing in the towel like that in unforgivable and as good as admitting on live TV. I don’t mind losing if we show some fight and I sound like a broken record because I say it week in week out. He has to go. What message does that send out to players when we are deep in a relegation scrap?

[Villan_of_oz]

I can't find the post match interview....

[nick76]

5 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said:

I can't find the post match interview....

Dont bother, you'll just be more angry!  I've been pro-Smith but I was disgusted with that post match interview

[Villan_of_oz]

Just now, nick76 said:

Dont bother, you'll just be more angry!  I've been pro-Smith but I was disgusted with that post match interview

In fairness to you mate, you have been objective and rational with your thoughts, even when we have disagreed. Gotta respect that. UTV

[Villan_of_oz]

Just watched it. Throws Mings under the bus

[Keener window-cleaner]

I was so angry at half time I could smash something. Not only do we have a disadvantage of playing without our fans, big clubs get the advantage of 5 subs, idiotic cooling breaks and on top of that they also have the advantage of a referee giving them penalties and goals. And then the second goal was over the 4 mins of extra time, time that he found because of the stupid non-penalty. That's not a penalty in a 100 years, Bruno tries a fancy turn, looses his balance, falls over Konsa and puts his studs in Konsas leg.

The first 25 mins was among the best I've seen us play against one of the top teams. We looked up for it, created more and looked a threat. Jack going close and Trez hitting the post. Then the cooling break and that stupid decision just pushed us off our stride. Horrendous.

Then I dont understand why Jack wasn't substitued. If he is injured or exhausted he shouldn't be playing the last minutes when we are 3 down. If he was fit his attitude is appaling and should be subbed for that.

Edited July 10, 2020 by Keener window-cleaner

[Aston_Villan4]

5 minutes ago, nick76 said:

I totally understand your point, I expected a defeat tonight and it's all about the next couple of games and not tonight but it was the performance tonight that lost me a lot of hope.  Man U are quality but they didnt have to get out of 3rd or 4th gear tonight, we played like we had no hope, desire or interest....that's what got me.  I was convinced before this game that we would still survive this season but that has really knocked my confidence tonight, not because of the result but about the performance and especially our key players like Jack, McGinn and Mings who we need at top form over the coming games.

I do agree with you. The story of Villas season, a solid 15-20 minutes followed by complete shambles and what seems like hopelessness. I can’t remember which game it was but it was one of the 4 before Liverpool. Very much to what you’re saying. I figured we would lose the game so I had no issue with losing. It was how we lost that got me. The performance was SO bad I felt like I had no choice but to become enraged by it. I guess that game, whichever one it was, knocked the confidence out of me.
 

Grealish, of that bunch, is really the only player who I’m fed up with. Even if he’s mentally checked out and ready for a big next move I don’t know why anyone watching would want him, especially with how much were demanding for him. For the other two Mings is Mings, he’s solid for majority of the game but always has that one brain fart and McGinn looks like he’s slowly finding his form again. 

[Stratvillan]

40 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

The players mirror him.

Jesus! That's ridiculous, even by your standards. Stop blaming 1 man when theres a lot to take the blame. Smith was angry with the ref the players were, hows that mirroring?

Criticise mings, grealish, samatta, konsa  wake up!!!!!!!!!!

[juanpablosaliceband]

21 minutes ago, Paul33 said:

At 9-1 against, we were not supposed to win this one but we ARE supposed to be fighting for our lives and we do not give that impression. I love Jack but, in all honesty, he is a shite captain who shows no passion and no encouragement for his team mates. Does he actually EVER  talk to his team mates ? He is supposed to be a leader and he comes across as a sulky kid playing for the name on the back of his shirt rather than the badge on the front.

I wish Smith would sub Jack or even leave him on the bench just to make a point. The only good thing about his performances and attitude is that there is no way any half decent club will sign him ...... not even for £8M let alone £80M !!!

I am not sure that’s a good thing to be honest. I think he’s leaving at the end of the season and as much as I love how he stayed with us through tough years, I’m tired of the sulky body language from a captain and the constant efforts of the media to sell him. Even the Sky commentator had him in the United team before a ball was even kicked tonight. I’d prefer he maximises his value and we just let him go for a good price. The way things are going at the moment, Bruce brings him to Newcastle for 30 million. 

[thunderball]

I think Mings is desperately over rated but he is [was] an important talisman. My fear is that a few players in our squad think they are bigger than the club, superstars owed a living, a destiny. Frankly, we are better off without them medium/long term.