Liam100 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 If we signed Tammy how would we play him and Watkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam100 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Should the discussion on whether Tammy (or anyone) would improve us or not be comparing them to who they would replace in the squad - so compare Tammy with Keinan in this example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Just joking mate & thanks for the updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, beachboys1 said: whats happened to traore He started doing steroids: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Liam100 said: Should the discussion on whether Tammy (or anyone) would improve us or not be comparing them to who they would replace in the squad - so compare Tammy with Keinan in this example? we arent going to spend 28/33m on Watkins, to replace him with 40-50m Abraham, also we arent going to spend 28/33m on Watkins, to replace Davis as backup with a 40-50m Abraham. Any money we have left needs to go on wide players (maybe wide players who can also play cf if needed), a midfielder, then possibly a left back and central defender. even if we did buy another striker, there is no way we would spend 30-50m on them as a backup to watkins, or to replace watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, Jas10 said: He started doing steroids: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Jas10 said: He started doing steroids: ye well, apparently everyone says he got like that without doing ANY weights etc, apparently thats just "natural muscle". ye cus......ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Liam100 said: If we signed Tammy how would we play him and Watkins? Small club mentality. Do you think Chelsea thought oh, if we sign Havertz, how will we play him and Pulisic, Ziyech, CHO, etc? I think Tammy is over-priced (and would prefer Edouard) - but not a single one of our strikers was good enough last year, so I don’t see how signing a second striker creates a problem, it’s a solution. It also would allow us greater flexibility to move to playing two up front, if required. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Cizzler said: Small club mentality. Do you think Chelsea thought oh, if we sign Havertz, how will we play him and Pulisic, Ziyech, CHO, etc? I think Tammy is over-priced (and would prefer Edouard) - but not a single one of our strikers was good enough last year, so I don’t see how signing a second striker creates a problem, it’s a solution. It also would allow us greater flexibility to move to playing two up front, if required. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, hippo said: Yup an injury so bad - it makes any argument Wes v Tammy hypothetical. My point with the Wes comparison was merely to highlight that Tammy isn't some player that we drastically improve us but in actuality won't improve us at all. If a player much criticised can be shown to be his equal it kind of makes the argument that he is the answer to our striking problem as ridiculous as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 i really thought we would sign someone today. i am disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Philosopher said: My point with the Wes comparison was merely to highlight that Tammy isn't some player that we drastically improve us but in actuality won't improve us at all. If a player much criticised can be shown to be his equal it kind of makes the argument that he is the answer to our striking problem as ridiculous as it is. Would you have signed Ings 12months ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 If Samatta leaves there's no way that we won't sign another striker, we aren't going to go into the season in a scenario whereby if Watkins gets injured we're suddenly left with Davis as our only back up option, was only very recently that everyone seem to think that Davis needed a loan move, now suddenly he's going to be our second choice centre-forward. Even John Percy has said that Smith wants another striker if Samatta leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, MaVilla said: i really thought we would sign someone today. i am disappoint. Yes and L'Equipe has lost it's credibility, who can we trust now!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Keener window-cleaner said: Yes and L'Equipe has lost it's credibility, who can we trust now!?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted September 18, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: It rattles my cage when I see somebody using statistics to construct an argument, which by their very nature are objective, then somebody else returns with aggression. I don't know why I let it get to me, maybe it's the pointlessness of it. Statistics literally don't care about your feelings. Yes, there's more to the game than can be captured on paper, but simply put - there's just no need to be a dick about it. Yeah well you can prove anything with facts! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, MaVilla said: i really thought we would sign someone today. i am disappoint. It isn’t Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cizzler said: Small club mentality. Do you think Chelsea thought oh, if we sign Havertz, how will we play him and Pulisic, Ziyech, CHO, etc? I think Tammy is over-priced (and would prefer Edouard) - but not a single one of our strikers was good enough last year, so I don’t see how signing a second striker creates a problem, it’s a solution. It also would allow us greater flexibility to move to playing two up front, if required. OK so Havertz is a CAM, Pulisic is a left side inside forward. Ziyech is a right side playmaker. Hudson Odoi is a inside forward that can play either side. It's not comparable. What is comparative is Werner, Tammy, Giroud. Warner is more of a Vardy type, fast, looking to break the offside trap. Giroud, a target man. Tammy a bit of both. We have Watkins a more skilled version of Tammy (looks a bit sharper to me as well), Wesley, a target man that likes to drop deep. Davis a powerful target man with some pace. If you play one up front you need 3 strikers. Or 2 strikers and a a couple of inside forwards that can play striker. Or even 4 strikers where a couple of them are just as comfortable wide. If you have two strikers of the same style you normally see one is the senior first choice and the other is a young player coming through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 We aren’t signing Tammy anyway so let’s just move on please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Jas10 said: We aren’t signing Tammy anyway so let’s just move on please... Tru dat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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