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[Mandy Lifeboats]

8 hours ago, mjmooney said:

Here's one: the Brummie and black country accents actually ARE essentially the same. 

I was brought up in  Wolverhampton but moved to Brum in my 20's.  

The difference is quite clear to someone with experience of both.  

[BOF]

9 hours ago, MakemineVanilla said:

I think Norm Macdonald was king of cringe!

Different kind of cringe though. Norm was the best at saying the absolute wrong thing.

 

[MakemineVanilla]

7 minutes ago, BOF said:

Different kind of cringe though. Norm was the best at saying the absolute wrong thing.

 

When I thought about cringe comedians, there seemed a lot more than I realised.

[Follyfoot]

28 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

I was brought up in  Wolverhampton but moved to Brum in my 20's.  

The difference is quite clear to someone with experience of both.  

Having worked in Wolverhampton many many years ago and marrying a Wolverhampton lass. I can confirm that this is definitely the case. I would also like to add that my experience of Wolverhampton women is that they are generally all psychopaths

Edited June 28, 2023 by Follyfoot

[HKP90]

32 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

I was brought up in  Wolverhampton but moved to Brum in my 20's.  

The difference is quite clear to someone with experience of both.  

100%.

Where we grew up you could tell the difference between folks who came from Tipton, Dudley, West Brom, Netherton, Old Hill, Halesowen, and a load more. There is hardly any distance between all of these. Some were stark differences. 

[Mandy Lifeboats]

I have never heard a Brummy use the following- 

Donny  -   Hold my donny.

Os -   I lost £50 on an os. 

Yed-    I was hit on the yed.

Scrammel -  that scrammel barked all night. 

 

Translation Quiz. 

If yowm saft enuff ter cum dahn ere agooin wum, yowr tay ull b spilt. 

 

 

Edited June 28, 2023 by Mandy Lifeboats
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[Paddywhack]

44 minutes ago, BOF said:

Different kind of cringe though. Norm was the best at saying the absolute wrong thing.

 

I think this is my favourite clip.

 

[HKP90]

4 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

I have never heard a Brummy use the following- 

Donny  -   Hold my donny.

Os -   I lost £50 on an os. 

Yed-    I was hit on the yed.

Scrammel -  that scrammel barked all night. 

 

Do brummies say that 'it's dark over Bill's Mothers' when it looks like it's about to rain?

Also do they have bostin?

We used to use whammel for dog in Darby End.

Edited June 28, 2023 by HKP90

[Mandy Lifeboats]

3 minutes ago, HKP90 said:

Do brummies say that 'it's dark over Bill's Mothers' when it looks like it's about to rain?

It's BLACK over Bill's mother's.  

 

[mjmooney]

9 minutes ago, HKP90 said:

100%.

Where we grew up you could tell the difference between folks who came from Tipton, Dudley, West Brom, Netherton, Old Hill, Halesowen, and a load more. There is hardly any distance between all of these. Some were stark differences. 

None of which I would dispute. But you're born and raised in the area. Whereas to anyone from a different part of the country, it's all much of a Brummie muchness. 

I'm sure you'd take the word of a Yorkshireman that they can tell Barnsley from Bradford from Leeds from Richmond - but I'll bet that to you, it all sounds just... Yorkshire. 

Britain is rich in accents and dialects that vary within surprisingly small areas, but for practical purposes, we all tend to group them - northeast England is 'geordie', Merseyside is 'scouse', London is 'cockney', the west country is 'wurzel', etc. And I'm OK with that. I know that Wolverhampton has a different twang to Birmingham, but I also accept that the West Midlands is to most people's ears... Brummie. 

Obviously I didn't expect this forum to agree, hence putting it in this thread (for more nuanced discussion, ser the accents thread). 

[HKP90]

2 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

None of which I would dispute. But you're born and raised in the area. Whereas to anyone from a different part of the country, it's all much of a Brummie muchness. 

I'm sure you'd take the word of a Yorkshireman that they can tell Barnsley from Bradford from Leeds from Richmond - but I'll bet that to you, it all sounds just... Yorkshire. 

Britain is rich in accents and dialects that vary within surprisingly small areas, but for practical purposes, we all tend to group them - northeast England is 'geordie', Merseyside is 'scouse', London is 'cockney', the west country is 'wurzel', etc. And I'm OK with that. I know that Wolverhampton has a different twang to Birmingham, but I also accept that the West Midlands is to most people's ears... Brummie. 

Obviously I didn't expect this forum to agree, hence putting it in this thread (for more nuanced discussion, ser the accents thread). 

Ah. Fair point.

[HKP90]

6 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

It's BLACK over Bill's mother's.  

 

Ooh. Love these little differences. Where did you grow up?

[Mandy Lifeboats]

2 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

None of which I would dispute. But you're born and raised in the area. Whereas to anyone from a different part of the country, it's all much of a Brummie muchness. 

I'm sure you'd take the word of a Yorkshireman that they can tell Barnsley from Bradford from Leeds from Richmond - but I'll bet that to you, it all sounds just... Yorkshire. 

Britain is rich in accents and dialects that vary within surprisingly small areas, but for practical purposes, we all tend to group them - northeast England is 'geordie', Merseyside is 'scouse', London is 'cockney', the west country is 'wurzel', etc. And I'm OK with that. I know that Wolverhampton has a different twang to Birmingham, but I also accept that the West Midlands is to most people's ears... Brummie. 

Obviously I didn't expect this forum to agree, hence putting it in this thread (for more nuanced discussion, ser the accents thread). 

The best thing about the UK is that you can drive 70 miles in any direction and have no idea how to order a sandwich made with a bread roll. 

[Mandy Lifeboats]

1 minute ago, HKP90 said:

Ooh. Love these little differences. Where did you grow up?

Wedgefelt near Wulveramptun. 

Wednesfield near Wolverhampton 

[HKP90]

3 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

Wedgefelt near Wulveramptun. 

Wednesfield near Wolverhampton 

Cool. I grew up in Netherton, and used to live not far away from there in Willenhall.

[AvfcRigo82]

1 hour ago, Follyfoot said:

I would also like to add that my experience of Wolverhampton women is that they are generally all psychopaths

And that's before even mentioning black mamba.

[rjw63]

Every single movie and TV show that’s anything to do with Star Wars is absolute **** shite.

[TheAuthority]

On 02/02/2023 at 05:41, PussEKatt said:

I used to dunk Gingernuts in my wifes cup ( dont eat gingernuts now )

I didn't realize you, @El Zen and your wife were that close.

[TheAuthority]

3 hours ago, HKP90 said:

Where we grew up you could tell the difference between folks who came from Tipton, Dudley, West Brom, Netherton, Old Hill, Halesowen, and a load more. There is hardly any distance between all of these. Some were stark differences. 

My dad had a small plumbers merchant in Brierley Hill. 

On the trade counter you could tell the plumbers accents that were different sometimes only 2 miles apart. Rowley Regis, Stourbridge, Halesowen, Dudley etc. All slightly different twangs and slang. You could sometimes tell who went to what school by the slang they used. It's pretty amazing - certainly nothing close to that in the States. 

I think the Black Country has a very unique, special culture that has never been "exposed" and codified like other regions (See the Liverpool love in because of the Beetles and the Manchester self promoting assholes). It's almost like a secret.

[Marka Ragnos]

8 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

Translation Quiz. 

If yowm saft enuff ter cum dahn ere agooin wum, yowr tay ull b spilt. 

If you're daft enough to come down here (or before?) [something something], your tea will be [something?].

4 hours ago, TheAuthority said:

I think the Black Country has a very unique, special culture that has never been "exposed" and codified like other regions (See the Liverpool love in because of the Beetles and the Manchester self promoting assholes). It's almost like a secret.

It's a window straight into the past. 

Edited June 29, 2023 by Marka Ragnos