Pongo Waring Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 So he's coming back then Surely no way we get 18 million for him in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 If thats true that is a bizarre deal and one that could potentially cost us Champions League. We would have been better charging a loan fee and a transfer fee after staying up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 30 minutes ago, Zatman said: If thats true that is a bizarre deal and one that could potentially cost us Champions League. We would have been better charging a loan fee and a transfer fee after staying up Why would it cost us CL? Duran is a more suited option for us. Archer would have barely played. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Why would it cost us CL? Duran is a more suited option for us. Archer would have barely played. If that Sheffield United draw costs us a top 4 spot it will have done damage. If was a loan he would not have played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: If that Sheffield United draw costs us a top 4 spot it will have done damage. If was a loan he would not have played Ah I see. That would be quite karmic from a Sheffield United point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted January 3 Popular Post Share Posted January 3 If that Sheffield United draw costs us top four, then that will be our own fault for failling to beat one of the worst teams in Premier League history, regardless of Archer scoring in that game, we should be scoring more than one goal past them, we weren't even unlucky, just poor in an attacking sense on the night, much is made about them putting lots of men behind the ball, but truth be told they didn't even have to defend well to stop us scoring, if you really wanted to blame someone else you could say we were unlucky with the refereeing decisions, but point is we still should have had enought to beat that Sheffield United team, even with Archer getting a goal for them, that we didn't is our own fault on the night, not the fault of the decision to sell Archer. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted January 3 VT Supporter Share Posted January 3 Nice to at least have it confirmed what is going on. Comments are interesting too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 20 minutes ago, useless said: If that Sheffield United draw costs us top four, then that will be our own fault for failling to beat one of the worst teams in Premier League history, regardless of Archer scoring in that game, we should be scoring more than one goal past them, we weren't even unlucky, just poor in an attacking sense on the night, much is made about them putting lots of men behind the ball, but truth be told they didn't even have to defend well to stop us scoring, if you really wanted to blame someone else you could say we were unlucky with the refereeing decisions, but point is we still should have had enought to beat that Sheffield United team, even with Archer getting a goal for them, that we didn't is our own fault on the night, not the fault of the decision to sell Archer. Yes also VAR did more to stop us winning that game than Archer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Much like the Hawkeye failure, one goal or one result won’t be the cause of our whether we achieve something or not. Interesting to see Cameron’s contract situation confirmed. My question is do we think his value will have increased from when we sold him in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 35 minutes ago, useless said: If that Sheffield United draw costs us top four, then that will be our own fault for failling to beat one of the worst teams in Premier League history, regardless of Archer scoring in that game, we should be scoring more than one goal past them, we weren't even unlucky, just poor in an attacking sense on the night, much is made about them putting lots of men behind the ball, but truth be told they didn't even have to defend well to stop us scoring, if you really wanted to blame someone else you could say we were unlucky with the refereeing decisions, but point is we still should have had enought to beat that Sheffield United team, even with Archer getting a goal for them, that we didn't is our own fault on the night, not the fault of the decision to sell Archer. No more than the Man United loss will cost us. 2-0 up against a shite Man poo and ended up 2-3. Was worse if you ask me, since proved they are still crap too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Zatman said: If that Sheffield United draw costs us a top 4 spot it will have done damage. If was a loan he would not have played I'm sure we've wrangled FFP so that the transfer out and then potentially back in gives us more room Pure profit!!! Or some such nonsense Gonna guess Monchi has a fair clue about what he's done and why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 £18m pure profit on the books this year. Sign him back on a five year deal for the same amount, £3.6m out on the books for the next five years. FFP wrangling at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 22 hours ago, Zatman said: If that Sheffield United draw costs us a top 4 spot it will have done damage. If was a loan he would not have played It doesn't work like that though, if he wasn't playing then someone else would have played instead of him. Its not as simple as if he wasn't playing we would have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olof82Mellberg4 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Benched for the 2nd game in a row Can't even get in the worst team in the league, some of the bed wetting over selling him was hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 Wilder was probably the worst manager they could have appointed for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Olof82Mellberg4 said: Benched for the 2nd game in a row Can't even get in the worst team in the league, some of the bed wetting over selling him was hilarious Probably more for the games gone thread I'd say most of the bed wetting was clinging on to the belief that football is better when it's guys from your academy breaking through rather than multi million pound players who are here for 3/4 years before moving on with very little affinity between the player and the fans As fun and exciting as some of the transfer links can be I'd still rather Ramsey became a world beater or kadan young went on to play for England, not saying Archer would have done but at the same time he didn't really get a "fair" chance at breaking through either Us selling Archer and AJ is a sad reality of what modern football is and I think a lot of us, myself included, don't want it Grealish and Ramsey made it here (?) 2 players in the last 10 years, I do find it sad that there's every danger no one from the FA youth winning team will make it here, I can remember the excitement when we won it, now it seems a bit futile 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 45 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Probably more for the games gone thread I'd say most of the bed wetting was clinging on to the belief that football is better when it's guys from your academy breaking through rather than multi million pound players who are here for 3/4 years before moving on with very little affinity between the player and the fans As fun and exciting as some of the transfer links can be I'd still rather Ramsey became a world beater or kadan young went on to play for England, not saying Archer would have done but at the same time he didn't really get a "fair" chance at breaking through either Us selling Archer and AJ is a sad reality of what modern football is and I think a lot of us, myself included, don't want it Grealish and Ramsey made it here (?) 2 players in the last 10 years, I do find it sad that there's every danger no one from the FA youth winning team will make it here, I can remember the excitement when we won it, now it seems a bit futile Normally would agree but a lot of the bed wetting came from the Ollie isn't going to take us next level camp I am sure when Archer scored on his debut Ollie didnt have a league goal yet and some said he would outscore Ollie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, Olof82Mellberg4 said: Benched for the 2nd game in a row Can't even get in the worst team in the league, some of the bed wetting over selling him was hilarious @Delphinho123 Don't worry. We're buying him back in the summer. Edited January 21 by Tomaszk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 is his buy back mandatory if they go down? or is it an optional buy back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olof82Mellberg4 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 33 minutes ago, MaVilla said: is his buy back mandatory if they go down? or is it an optional buy back? The bloke on twitter suggested it was mandatory Annoyingly, it makes him incredibly hard to sell next season unless it's directly to a championship club for a much lower fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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