PaulC Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Sounds like Gerrard expects a lot more from Luiz when he said hes done ok for us. Hardly glowing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: I don’t know. Maybe he’s spending every free minute with her which suddenly changes to once a week leading to a disillusioned Dougie. If she stays at villa I hope its because the women's team think she's a quality player and adds something to our attack, not that we need someone with a nice ass on retainer in case the lads need some attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, PaulC said: Sounds like Gerrard expects a lot more from Luiz when he said hes done ok for us. Hardly glowing! Exactly the sort of handling he needs right now IMHO. I’ve always felt we should be getting more from Dougie than we generally do, good as it sometimes is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, PaulC said: Sounds like Gerrard expects a lot more from Luiz when he said hes done ok for us. Hardly glowing! Gerrard is simply acknowledging that Luiz is doing a job for us outside his preferred position while Nakamba is injured. I don’t see it as a criticism of the player, more an acknowledgement that we won’t see the best of Luiz until we have an actual defensive midfielder behind him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Exactly the sort of handling he needs right now IMHO. I’ve always felt we should be getting more from Dougie than we generally do, good as it sometimes is. Yes thats what I feel. Hes always ok but never feel wow hes had a good game like you do with Buendia. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I think what Gerrard says behind the scenes to the players is more important than what he says in a press conference. ‘Gaffer, what do you mean I’m doing ok?’ ’listen, ya can do more lad and ya know it’ !! ‘justo o suficiente, você removeu a palavra’!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Selling Luiz and replacing him with Bissouma would be this generation Cahill for Knight deal Let’s not go nuts mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 hours ago, PieFacE said: Well there it is. Hope he signs Feels like this came almost direct from the club to calm things down. Hope Dougie isn't too silly with this new agent, he's in a great place right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, PaulC said: Sounds like Gerrard expects a lot more from Luiz when he said hes done ok for us. Hardly glowing! It may also be a reference to the fact that he knows that Luiz is playing out of position and that when played in the correct / preferred position he's expecting to see a big improvement because we'll suddenly be playing to his strengths????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, skarroki said: If she stays at villa I hope its because the women's team think she's a quality player and adds something to our attack, not that we need someone with a nice ass on retainer in case the lads need some attention. Well obviously. I’m not suggesting to keep her here as a call girl. I was just making the point that the typically high turnover in the women‘s game could in this case have a knock on effect on the Doug. Conversely Dougie leaving might also affect her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Let’s not go nuts mate! I definitely believe it, I think Bissouma is going to be a major flop when he gets his transfer. Wont be the first to play well at a mid table team and then outside the comfort zone he is shown up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: I definitely believe it, I think Bissouma is going to be a major flop when he gets his transfer. Wont be the first to play well at a mid table team and then outside the comfort zone he is shown up Nah I think he will do alright just not be the world beater some seem to think he will be. Zat Knight was just a very average defender at Fulham and continued to be so at Villa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, PaulC said: Yes thats what I feel. Hes always ok but never feel wow hes had a good game like you do with Buendia. That is a bit like saying that Chopper Harris was OK but he never wowed like Pele. I mean they are two completely different types of player playing two completely different roles. Luiz is being asked to collect the ball off the back 4 and pass it up the field so that the attacking 3 can try and create something. Even the best player in the world at doing that is not going to "wow" compared to the guy given a "free role" to attack the opposition back 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Gerrard is simply acknowledging that Luiz is doing a job for us outside his preferred position while Nakamba is injured. I don’t see it as a criticism of the player, more an acknowledgement that we won’t see the best of Luiz until we have an actual defensive midfielder behind him. 5 minutes ago, allani said: It may also be a reference to the fact that he knows that Luiz is playing out of position and that when played in the correct / preferred position he's expecting to see a big improvement because we'll suddenly be playing to his strengths????? If that was what he meant, wouldn’t he have said that? “He’s done OK” doesn’t quite capture this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, briny_ear said: If that was what he meant, wouldn’t he have said that? “He’s done OK” doesn’t quite capture this. Well this was the rest of the quote from Gerrard: Quote “We’ve been happy with his training level and the performances he has given. “We believe there’s room for him to improve. He’s doing us a job as a No.6 at the moment. We know that he prefers to play a bit more advanced but he’s helped us out an awful lot on the back of Nakamba’s injury. “We rate the player extremely high and we’re hoping from now until the end of the season, he can really perform at his best and help the team moving forward.” The way I read that is Gerrard saying he’s done ok filling a gap for us, not that he’s been lacking as a player. Edited January 27, 2022 by LondonLax 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rbcuk Posted January 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2022 I’m surprised by the amount that would be happy to see him go, I rate him a lot higher than McGinn, he’s so much better on the ball than anyone we currently have in midfield, if he goes we will regret it in years to come 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Happy if we can keep him but he needs to really drive himself on to fulfil his talent and he more consistent. Maybe playing as an 8 will release him, let's see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 48 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Well this was the rest of the quote from Gerrard: The way I read that is Gerrard saying he’s done ok filling a gap for us, not that he’s been lacking as a player. Yup, I read it as "he's done well in this position we asked him to play for now, but he can be better in his preferred position". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, skarroki said: not that we need someone with a nice ass on retainer in case the lads need some attention. Ass on retainer We have McGinn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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