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8 minutes ago, ender4 said:

the chances of Man City buying him back are low...   He'd have to turn out to be an amazing player, not just an average 7-10th Premier league player.

If he does turn out to be that amazing, then the buyback will probably be £30-50 million. 

Win/win all round. 

Barcelona never activated their buyback clause on Traore after all!

 

But Traore was/is pants.

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7 minutes ago, ender4 said:

the chances of Man City buying him back are low...   He'd have to turn out to be an amazing player, not just an average 7-10th Premier league player.

that's the negative of the buy back, he doesn't have to reach man city quality in order for man city to buy him back, he has to reach a transfer value that is profitable for man city

pretty much the same as what reims are doing with engels, they buy a player using a clause but then intend to sell him quickly for a profit

they can buy him back and sell him to someone else an hour later

the positive is we would still make a profit, just not as much, and for the players value to reach those heights he has to play well for us first

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Man City have just signed Rodri for 62.8 million pounds to play in Fernandhino's position, and Rodri is just 23 years old. He could be first choice as DM for years.

Man C may be under a transfer embargo next season due to alleged past FFP infringements.

Douglas is a damned good player who will only get better. He has the ability, as his player of the tournament award recently in the Toulon Tournament demonstrates, and he must be a leader on the pitch because he captains the Brazil U23 team.

Very positive signing if this happens.

 

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It’s quite a clever situation for us and City, if this lad is as good as we all hope. They get their guy sorted with a work permit and we get a very good player for a season that doesn’t effect FFP as we’ll be selling him at a profit. If he isn’t that good I doubt us or them would be going to the trouble. Either way £15m is a reasonable risk at today’s prices. 

Aside from the business side, it’s good to know that Pep rates our coaching set up highly enough to continue the development of the player. If we have a good season they may not fancy doing us any favours in the future though. 

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It is actually a pretty smart move by city to insert this clause and a model we could maybe emulate with the likes of keinan Davis who would benefit from a move to a first division or championship club but we would be kicking ourselves if he realises his full potential

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3 minutes ago, VILLAMARV said:

Anyone ITK out there know if Man City have bought that Rodri fella?

https://www.mancity.com/news/first-team/first-team-news/2019/july/man-city-sign-rodri-transfer-news-atletico-madrid

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Manchester City are delighted to announce the signing of Spanish midfielder Rodri.

The 23-year-old joins on a five-year deal from Atletico Madrid and follows Angelino to become Pep Guardiola’s second signing of the summer.

A defensively minded midfielder who is most at home sitting in front of the back four, Rodri has earned a reputation as one of Europe’s most exciting prospects.

This do?

 

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18 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Didn't Barcelona put a buyback clause in on Adama Traore or am I making that up entirely?

it was relatively low fee too...12m...which barca (sensibly) knew he wasn't worth. yet wolves felt he was worth 18m. so we're getting luiz for 3m LESS than they paid for adama. mega lolz.

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Won player of the tournament at the Toulon .... let that sink in and has cost us 15million ... who cares if citeh have a buyback clause let’s just enjoy him whilst he is here ! 

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26 minutes ago, ender4 said:

the chances of Man City buying him back are low...   He'd have to turn out to be an amazing player, not just an average 7-10th Premier league player.

If he does turn out to be that amazing, then the buyback will probably be £30-50 million

Win/win all round. 

Barcelona never activated their buyback clause on Traore after all!

Do people really believe that we'd be able to insert a buy-back clause that high?

I reckon Man City will set a modest buy-back amount, and if we try to push for higher they can just walk away and offer the same deal to any other 10th-20th team in the league, which would be our loss.

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1 hour ago, holtend4life said:

Just out of interest, do we have one  at the moment? 

No, but we will have to buy one (ie.Philips) either this window or subsequent windows, as backup for Luiz, as we do not know when City will exercise their buyback option.

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12 minutes ago, thabucks said:

Won player of the tournament at the Toulon .... let that sink in and has cost us 15million ... who cares if citeh have a buyback clause let’s just enjoy him whilst he is here ! 

Although you want to know you have certainly over the ownership of your players, there’s a strong business case here. Man City are likely selling him at a very reasonable price because this transfer will enable him to get a work permit...all City can do with him is loan him again to Girona or similar as he can’t get a work permit for them. This transfer should give him enough points for that. The result is city get to see him in the premier league, make a profit on him overall if he never goes back. However if he excels they can buy him back for the first team with no permit issues. For us, if they do that we get a couple years of service (most likely) and make a profit on the deal. 

For me the success of the transfer comes down to whether or not the buy back clause is high enough to allow us to adequately source a replacement down the line if the market continues to inflate, and avoid a situation where he is just being bought for resale.

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