Keener window-cleaner Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Did you watch Wes this season? Do you think he looked like an adequate footballer? Yes. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I think he has been poor so far - I think the only point up for debate is can he improve over time. Looks odds against to me - but plenty of players take a season to settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Tomaszk said: Potential to eventually be worth £22m? Not for me. We've been had, and having a guy not ready for PL football as our only striker signing this summer has cost us badly. I think is a player in there but very raw, obviously price was too much but needed to be for the work permit. Wesley suffered mostly as we didnt bring an experienced striker in and that Davis got injured to take him out of the spotlight. Management have zero faith in Kodjia Comparison with Benteke when he arrived he was behind or rotated with Bent or Gabby for the 1st 5/6 months to find his feet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Man Utd game Manu fans: Wesley is handful, terrorizing our defenders Some Villa fans: REEEEEEEEE WESLEY IS SHIT!!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Zatman said: I think is a player in there but very raw, obviously price was too much but needed to be for the work permit Pretty sure price was just for Luiz. Wesley qualified from playing CL games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, Kiwivillan said: Pretty sure price was just for Luiz. Wesley qualified from playing CL games God that's even worse then. Can't be right. He took ages to confirm I seem to remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said: Yes. Yes. I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keener window-cleaner Posted January 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: I disagree. I think he has been really good in three games, against Everton, Norwich and Burnley, good in some games like against Arsenal, Man U and Man C, these were also very good opponents. In the other games he has been poor or not had much to work on. He has suffered from the fact that he has been very isolated up front in many games, hence the tactical switch to move Jack to a more advanced position for example. He has also suffered from coming into a quite new team with many players who haven't played together, takes some time to understand the other players. He is quite young, new to the PL, it normally takes players a while to adapt to the tempo and physicality of the PL. All in all he hasn't performed as well as I would have hoped or expected and hasn't lived up to his price tag, but to me he has showed enough not to write him off. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I expected him to have around 5 to 7 goals at this stage of the season. What I hoped for though was more performances like what we saw against Everton and Norwich and Burnley. I'm still 100% behind the guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Kinda sad to see him thanking everyone for all the kind words after his injury and that it took him having his knee ripped in half for his fans to be kind to him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Kinda sad to see him thanking everyone for all the kind words after his injury and that it took him having his knee ripped in half for his fans to be kind to him. Bearing in mind his performances, the amount of support he got at games was unreal! Fans were desperate for him to play well and score, and he tried his best to. He never got any stick despite failing to control the ball most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wezbid Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2020 I think people forget he's 22 at times and just where his career started. He's not where we want him to be but there is absolutely potential to develop there. Not sure why it's up for debate. There's been occasions where PL defenders can't stop him. Few and far between but he can do it. It just takes time, patience and good coaching to get that sort of Wes more consistently. If he was 27/28, I'd say what an awful signing he's been but to me, there is raw ability there. The problem is he's come in as number 1 striker with not an awful lot to back him up or ease any pressure. He's been frustrating and such but I absolutely don't get the view that we've straight up bought a dud. Fast forward 2 and a half years, do people still really think they'd be seeing the same Wes as now? I don't. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Wezbid said: I think people forget he's 22 at times and just where his career started. He's not where we want him to be but there is absolutely potential to develop there. Not sure why it's up for debate. There's been occasions where PL defenders can't stop him. Few and far between but he can do it. It just takes time, patience and good coaching to get that sort of Wes more consistently. If he was 27/28, I'd say what an awful signing he's been but to me, there is raw ability there. The problem is he's come in as number 1 striker with not an awful lot to back him up or ease any pressure. He's been frustrating and such but I absolutely don't get the view that we've straight up bought a dud. Fast forward 2 and a half years, do people still really think they'd be seeing the same Wes as now? I don't. Agreed. I think he's got ability but like you said he's pretty raw and needs time to develop. It was pretty idealistic to think he could fire us to Premier League safety though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 10 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: Benteke debut season = 19 league goals Benteke debut season as at 14th Jan = 6 goals Jan 14th 2013 total team goals = 15 Jan 14th 2020 total team goals = 28 Not sure what the point is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Keyblade said: Kinda sad to see him thanking everyone for all the kind words after his injury and that it took him having his knee ripped in half for his fans to be kind to him. This isn't true. He's had lots of support from the very start. A bit of justified criticism on a fans forum doesn't change all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Wezbid said: I think people forget he's 22 at times and just where his career started. He's not where we want him to be but there is absolutely potential to develop there. Not sure why it's up for debate. There's been occasions where PL defenders can't stop him. Few and far between but he can do it. It just takes time, patience and good coaching to get that sort of Wes more consistently. If he was 27/28, I'd say what an awful signing he's been but to me, there is raw ability there. The problem is he's come in as number 1 striker with not an awful lot to back him up or ease any pressure. He's been frustrating and such but I absolutely don't get the view that we've straight up bought a dud. Fast forward 2 and a half years, do people still really think they'd be seeing the same Wes as now? I don't. Because the majority of his performances have been woeful. Maybe he will continue to develop and be a good striker at this level but as a newly promoted club we didn't have the luxury to let him develop at his pace. Not his fault we put all our eggs in his basket though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 58 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Not sure what the point is Benteke vs Wesley myths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) Yet to win a Prem game without him... soooooooo Edited January 15, 2020 by Tayls 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 34 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Benteke vs Wesley myths What's the myth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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