Kiwivillan Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Given what we all saw last season I think its hard to argue anything other than Conor is the better player in our midfield setup. Happy to have the chat but I dont see why its so incredulous that I would question buying a lower rated player than the one we currently have. I would sooner have an upgrade or a premier league player. We need a DCM and I don't think Conor is borderline PL material pushed further forward and he absolutely isn't a reliable DCM. I'm not going to argue with people that bring up DCM lack of attacking stats because they don't understand the position and probably think Makalele and Kante were/are rubbish Edited July 10, 2019 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: We need a DCM and I don't think Conor is borderline PL material pushed further forward because he absolutely isn't a reliable DCM. I'm not going to argue with people that bring up DCM lack of attacking stats because they don't understand the position and probably think Makalele and Kante were/are rubbish Fine, if you want to invent what I think knock yourself out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Fine, if you want to invent what I think knock yourself out. You made a ridiculous comparison. I'm not the only one who pointed it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Nigel said: Leeds fans are under the belief he was offered 25k and turned them down. This is all happening play by play just as there fans feared would happen. Actually feel sorry for them. Looks like he's going to be leaving soon We need to beat this out of you. That or your autocorrect changed from “I can’t wait to see the look on their scummy, entitled faces”. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: You made a ridiculous comparison. I'm not the only one who pointed it out Comparing a new signing to the player he is meant to be replacing/ be back up for doesn't seem ridiculous to me. If you thought it was then just take your own advice and dont bother arguing with me. Anyway I hope other folks find the stats helpful. Shrug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Comparing a new signing to the player he is meant to be replacing/ be back up for doesn't seem ridiculous to me. If you thought it was then just take your own advice and dont bother arguing with me. Anyway I hope other folks find the stats helpful. Shrug. Peace. I'm feeling cranky today. Bad sleep and work. Do have a look at 18/19 stats though. Was played a lot at AM. Lot of times in the pocket behind Abraham. I think this is his best role but as said I think we need better but I'd rather he played further forward as don't think he can shield the back 4 even close to as well as Whelan did consistently. Also set pieces inflates attacking stats https://www.transfermarkt.com/conor-hourihane/leistungsdaten/spieler/61653 Edited July 10, 2019 by Kiwivillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 @Cjay any news from your end, and what’s the general feeling about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted July 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Rugeley Villa said: @Cjay any news from your end, and what’s the general feeling about this? I think a few of us on here have a good idea what their general feeling is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 7 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: we have only won 15 games in the prem 4 times since the turn of the millennium and all of those resulted in 6th place finishes. The scary thing is you pretty much need 15 wins to scrape 10th now Remarkable that. Didn't really think about it, just thought 30 points just from wins didn't sound like much/enough to stay up so said 15! 6 hours ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Assuming we are looking at him as a DM, anchor of a three, then why would we buy a player who is worse than our current best option in that position (Conor)? If we are going to spend money then we should buy players who will improve us, not make us worse. His statshttps://www.whoscored.com/Players/270446/Show/Kalvin-Phillips like for like Conorhttps://www.whoscored.com/Players/134172/Show/Conor-Hourihane Kalvin is a worse version of Conor in just about every stat. I mean sure he could improve, but why roll the dice on that when we could get someone better? Phillips is ten times the player. Couldn't give a hoot what some numbers say. There was people saying on here last season Hourihane was better than Grealish and McGinn because he's a stats machine. Gets in heads far too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: We need a DCM and I don't think Conor is borderline PL material pushed further forward and he absolutely isn't a reliable DCM. I'm not going to argue with people that bring up DCM lack of attacking stats because they don't understand the position and probably think Makalele and Kante were/are rubbish Not 'Junk'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: @Cjay any news from your end, and what’s the general feeling about this? Just signed up for waccoe.... wish me luck 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: I think a few of us on here have a good idea what their general feeling is Obviously panic, but I meant do they think he will leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, thabucks said: Just signed up for waccoe.... wish me luck You won’t last long on there from what I’ve heard. I think a few have signed up off here and have been banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KenjiOgiwara Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 He removed being a footballer for Leeds from his Twitter. Seems he is off. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 How long is it taking this guy to pack? The rules are - 4 t shirts, 4 shorts and 4 pairs of pants! #kalvinwednesday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Rugeley Villa said: Obviously panic, but I meant do they think he will leave. If Twatter is anything to go by, they do, yes. After all the crap they've been through down the years, they are more cynical than we are. And the cynicism gene is twitching hard right now in the immediate aftermath of finally getting a good manager, only just missing out, etc. Only logical that the Chairman would choose to throw it all away in the face of such progress, or so the narrative appears to run... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Lerner's Driver said: If Twatter is anything to go by, they do, yes. After all the crap they've been through down the years, they are more cynical than we are. And the cynicism gene is twitching hard right now in the immediate aftermath of finally getting a good manager, only just missing out, etc. Only logical that the Chairman would choose to throw it all away in the face of such progress, or so the narrative appears to run... Any other given day I’d like to see Leeds keep him. It’s shite when clubs poach up and coming stars from other clubs. I always felt sorry for Southampton . They were in the verge of challenging the top four imo, but had their team ripped apart. I’d love us to sign him though. Not to spite Leeds, but because I think he will be a top player . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: Peace. I'm feeling cranky today. Bad sleep and work. Do have a look at 18/19 stats though. Was played a lot at AM. Lot of times in the pocket behind Abraham. I think this is his best role but as said I think we need better but I'd rather he played further forward as don't think he can shield the back 4 even close to as well as Whelan did consistently. Also set pieces inflates attacking stats https://www.transfermarkt.com/conor-hourihane/leistungsdaten/spieler/61653 Fair do's . Same, I was rushed typing walking out the door at work Good point about the stats. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2019 If stats can 'prove' that Conor Hourihane is a better DCM than Kalvin Phillips, then it's time to question the value of stats. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 44 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: He removed being a footballer for Leeds from his Twitter. Seems he is off. Are we bracing ourselves for his arrival? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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