Tyrone Mings

[ChesterDad]

It’s good news and I agree that we are better with him in the team, not only for his ability, but his leadership and all round good eggness!  It’s just that if he makes a rick then it seems to end up in our net - maybe he’s just been unlucky, who knows ?

But no matter he has earned the right to be our first choice centre half 

[DCJonah]

52 minutes ago, The_Steve said:

Indeed - some just needs to run a search of terms like “FFS Mings”. 

The worst example was that Man City goal, where people jumped on here to slaughter him. 

2 days later the Premier league changed the rules so that a goal like that couldn't happen again.

 

[Zatman]

4 minutes ago, DCJonah said:

The worst example was that Man City goal, where people jumped on here to slaughter him. 

2 days later the Premier league changed the rules so that a goal like that couldn't happen again.

 

Yeah but it was his fault for not knowing the future rules of the league. Harry Maguire would know that

[The_Steve]

He was wrongly scapegoated by Deano and Gerrard, I’m glad Don Unai recognises the qualities Ty brings. Always our captain. 

[MaVilla]

its a no brainer extending Mings' contract.

He is probably, almost certainly, currently our best central defender (we havent seen anything of Carlos to compare, so im comparing to Konsa/Chambers etc).

In the short to maybe medium term Mings will be really important for us, and even if in the medium to long term he isnt a guaranteed starter if Emery brings a new defender in, he is still an excellent player to compete for the starting slot and would add depth to the squad.

tbh i think we need one central defender in the summer, then have Mings, Carlos, Konsa and a new guy competing for the 2 central defender spots.

Get rid of Chambers tbh.

[HongKongVillan]

Great news, and last time I checked he is a better player Vs Coady or Dier and Maguire.

[jacketspuds]

2 hours ago, DCJonah said:

There's also a big section that jump at any opportunity to criticise the man 

I was one of them as I always thought that he was one of the reasons why our managers were failing when, especially in Gerrard’s case, it was the other way around.

I hold my hands up and say that I’m completely wrong and I’m delighted that Mings is probably going to finish is PL career with us.

I’m not really sure why I ever doubted it to be honest as Villa and CB’s with serious knee injuries in the past have always been a match made in heaven.

[Philosopher]

34 minutes ago, MaVilla said:

its a no brainer extending Mings' contract.

He is probably, almost certainly, currently our best central defender (we havent seen anything of Carlos to compare, so im comparing to Konsa/Chambers etc).

In the short to maybe medium term Mings will be really important for us, and even if in the medium to long term he isnt a guaranteed starter if Emery brings a new defender in, he is still an excellent player to compete for the starting slot and would add depth to the squad.

tbh i think we need one central defender in the summer, then have Mings, Carlos, Konsa and a new guy competing for the 2 central defender spots.

Get rid of Chambers tbh.

So I'd definitely sign a new right sided centre back. The higher calibre the better. But i'd still keep Chambers. Chamber versatility means he can always have a place in the squad. He is decent cover for 3 positions. and if we want to build a squad that compete for cups and in Europe then you need a player like Chambers to supplement the squad. Now if Chambers wants to leave, then move him on.

Mings extending his contract is good news. He is our top CB, he is a ball player and the quickest of our defenders, all essential qualitie to how we are trying to play.

[DJBOB]

Apparently Unai's decision to hand him an extension. Good on Don Unai for recognizing the importance of Mings.

[Tomaszk]

1 hour ago, The_Steve said:

He was wrongly scapegoated by Deano.

When was this?

Before or after he made him club captain and played him nearly every game.

[WallisFrizz]

2 minutes ago, Tomaszk said:

When was this?

Before or after he made him club captain and played him nearly every game.

He dropped Tyrone just before he was sacked and we played even worse. Then I think someone got sent off and he had to come on anyway.

Edited February 17, 2023 by WallisFrizz
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[sharkyvilla]

1 minute ago, Tomaszk said:

When was this?

Before or after he made him club captain and played him nearly every game.

Yeah scapegoated is a bit OTT, Dean dropped him just before he got sacked and to be fair Mings wasn't playing all that well.  A big call dropping the captain and I think we got thumped at home from memory, which is never a good look.  

Gerrard treated him like shit as a power move on the other hand.

[Mark Albrighton]

37 minutes ago, jacketspuds said:

I was one of them as I always thought that he was one of the reasons why our managers were failing when, especially in Gerrard’s case, it was the other way around.

I hold my hands up and say that I’m completely wrong and I’m delighted that Mings is probably going to finish is PL career with us.

I’m not really sure why I ever doubted it to be honest as Villa and CB’s with serious knee injuries in the past have always been a match made in heaven.

Fair do’s.

I’ve always been a big fan of Ty but I have to accept that he has made some notable mistakes, very occasionally they could be considered comical. So some of the criticism and concern regarding him is reasonable. However some of it has been completely reactionary and as per the offside Man City goal, common sense goes out the window and they just want to have a go.

But I’ve always felt he’s one of the components that needs changing the least, from midtable championship to midtable premier league, I feel like he’s been able to hold his own.

And I think he has a role to play in moving us up from a midtable premier league team. And seemingly Unai and the club feel the same (unless it’s to make sure a valuable player doesn’t leave for free next year, of course that’s a possibility). 

Whether that role is starting 38 out of 38 games for the next 3 seasons, I don’t know. But I honestly believe pretty much all the managers working in the top flight would like to have Mings as an option in their squads.

All of this, and completely “getting” the club, right from the off. It’s not something that seems to happen too often, at least from the outside looking in, and it should be celebrated when a player does buy into it.

[maqroll]

Good vibes going into tomorrow. Sensible deal. Top guy. He might not be an automatic starter next season, but if he forces the issue, it'll be good for Villa.

[The_Steve]

32 minutes ago, Tomaszk said:

When was this?

Before or after he made him club captain and played him nearly every game.

Ty was very diplomatic about it, but you can tell he was frustated by his treatment 

 “Without bashing a man who doesn’t have the ability to defend himself any more because he’s no longer the manager – and respectfully because we went on an amazing journey together – I didn’t agree with the decision at the time. It felt like I was being scapegoated a little bit. But the manager is the manager and he felt that was the right moment to take me out of the team."

Yes, the team was struggling but to drop your captain the way he did was one of Smith's big mistakes 

[The_Steve]

38 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said:

He dropped Tyrone just before he was sacked and we played even worse. Then I think someone got sent off and he had to come on anyway.

He did yes. We got ripped apart 4-1 by West Ham and Konsa got himself sent off and Mings came on. Smith claimed he dropped Ty for Hause to ‘deal with their set pieces’. Laughable. 

[alreadyexists]

Delighted he’s signed again! He’ll be a club legend when he retires, regardless of imperfections the journey he’s helped us on since 2019 has been unforgettable 

[Keyblade]

He honestly should be loved way more than he is by Villa fans, it's quite baffling. Twitter on match days where he's not playing like Maldini is insufferable. Also stupid little nitpicks like him chewing gum are often brought up. Any other club and he'd be close to if not a legend.

[The_Steve]

1 minute ago, Keyblade said:

He honestly should be loved way more than he is by Villa fans, it's quite baffling. Twitter on match days where he's not playing like Maldini is insufferable. Also stupid little nitpicks like him chewing gum are often brought up. Any other club and he'd be close to if not a legend.

I think some of our fan base can’t accept his politics or that he speaks his mind. I find people zoning on his every touch or piece of body language exhausting. 

Edited February 17, 2023 by The_Steve

[Keyblade]

Just now, The_Steve said:

I think some of our fan base can’t accept his politics but that he speaks his mind. I find people zoning on his every touch or piece of body language exhausting. 

It's also reflected in how much other fans (like Leeds for example) hate him. It makes no sense. The only set of fans I can kind of understand it for is United fans as there was the whole Ibra incident which soured them on him.

The guy is a model pro and an exceptional person. Some people just can't handle that he's outspoken on issues he's passionate about. I'm sure they'd like him more if he were constantly whining about cancel culture or something though.