tomav84 Posted November 11, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, est1874 said: I think I'm looking for the same sense of balance but from the other side of this? Check out the McGinn, Chambers, Konsa and obviously Olsen threads after the game yesterday. Plenty of very loud criticism. You'll struggle to find too many posts defending the players with much spirit. Cut to the Mings thread and it's a desperate firefight as usual, with his loyalists desperately pouring cold water over any criticism as per usual. I'll say this, you've stepped out and admitted he wasn't good last night. All I'm asking is for a bit of balance. He was immense last weekend and I said as much here. Same v Brentford. I try to always call it as I see it. And then in here sometimes I see people actively avoiding doing that, which grates. since last night there has been only 1 negative post in the konsa thread (from your good self ) . you are asking for balance, so are those of us that defend ty, and people just feel that he gets more criticism than the others. as a result it leads to possibly people being overly defensive of him you praised him for the good displays. but there are plenty that keep away from here following those then pipe up when he has a poor game, which is equally as grating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Chambers, Konsa and Mings all equally terrible yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 What happened to him was unlucky but there is no qusstion he was poor defensively yesterday. But who covered themselves in glory apart from Ashley young? They were mainly terrible. Alot of the blame is the nyland wannabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wict01 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Didn't think he covered himself in glory for Rashford's equaliser, but I was much more concerned at Chambers being absolutely roasted for pace by Eriksen in the lead up to that goal. Whole defensive unit was all over the shop last night, not helped by a keeper glued to his line, but as others have said Unai will have learned plenty about who's up to it and who isn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, est1874 said: I think I'm looking for the same sense of balance but from the other side of this? Check out the McGinn, Chambers, Konsa and obviously Olsen threads after the game yesterday. Plenty of very loud criticism. You'll struggle to find too many posts defending the players with much spirit. Cut to the Mings thread and it's a desperate firefight as usual, with his loyalists desperately pouring cold water over any criticism as per usual. I'll say this, you've stepped out and admitted he wasn't good last night. All I'm asking is for a bit of balance. He was immense last weekend and I said as much here. Same v Brentford. I try to always call it as I see it. And then in here sometimes I see people actively avoiding doing that, which grates. 1. As previously pointed out there is far far less criticism in the Konsa thread 2. Maybe, and hear me out here, it has something to do with the other players receiving criticism when they play poorly, which has most people in agreement, whereas the Mings thread has people desperate to blame him for absolutely everything even when he's played well with clearly OTT and unfair criticism which leads more people coming out to defend him? You know that pen that Konsa "gave away" when fernandes jumped into him a couple season ago? Most people are (rightly) still annoyed at the ref for giving the penalty. I can guarantee had that been Mings it would have been included in a "Mings is shit" compilation and sparked 5 pages of debate in here about it. Those blaming the ref would be called Mings apologists and those calling Mings a donkey wouldn't even acknowledge the fact it was a terrible decision 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 11, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, weedman said: You know that pen that Konsa "gave away" when fernandes jumped into him a couple season ago? Most people are (rightly) still annoyed at the ref for giving the penalty. I can guarantee had that been Mings it would have been included in a "Mings is shit" compilation and sparked 5 pages of debate in here about it. Those blaming the ref would be called Mings apologists and those calling Mings a donkey wouldn't even acknowledge the fact it was a terrible decision spot on i've seen mings blamed for giving away the free kick for the forest goal, which was a highly debatable free kick had that been any other player it doesn't get mentioned 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I'm struggling to see what Mings did wrong yesterday. Their second, he slips, pure bad luck, weak defending from Chambers then followed (shock), allowing Rashford an easy finish. Third - no blame at all, this is all on Olsen. He has to try and block the shot. Appalling play from Olsen. Fourth - that ball from Garancho or whatever his name is was superb. I find it hard to put any blame on him for this one either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tom13 said: I'm struggling to see what Mings did wrong yesterday. Their second, he slips, pure bad luck, weak defending from Chambers then followed (shock), allowing Rashford an easy finish. Third - no blame at all, this is all on Olsen. He has to try and block the shot. Appalling play from Olsen. Fourth - that ball from Garancho or whatever his name is was superb. I find it hard to put any blame on him for this one either. He was a little unlucky yesterday, Olsen however, was a disaster. Should have anticipated the first by being on the edge of his box and coming out to clear the ball over the top. God knows what that pass was for the second. Should have claimed the cross for the fourth. It was hands down the worst goalkeeping display I've seen since Nyland in the 5-5 against Forest and even that wasn't as bad. Don't think Mings did a lot wrong yesterday in truth. He'll start against Brighton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 5 hours ago, VillanousOne said: Chambers, Konsa and Mings all equally terrible yesterday. So you are saying we should start them in a back 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingzen Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 5 hours ago, tomav84 said: spot on i've seen mings blamed for giving away the free kick for the forest goal, which was a highly debatable free kick had that been any other player it doesn't get mentioned Nah that was a free kick, he got wrong footed as Dennis cut inside him and then blocked the player and threw him to the ground making no attempt to play the ball. Not a terrible error, but not a good place to give away a free kick, i think what was worse was how after giving that free kick away, he then loses his man for the free kick who then goes on to score... and that was after the terrible unforced assist he gave Mount in the Chelsea game before. Both of those games we were playing relatively well and at 0-0 and Mings gives away needless goals, i think this is one reason why teams become dejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Never saw a player with such a cocksure persona make so many mistakes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 That was a very Mings performance. More good than bad thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 First half felt like he was half-awake but pulled it together for a solid second half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Ty was struggling with the press in the first half, but definitely turned in to one of our better players in the second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Moustache of Teale Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: Brought a tear to my eye watching that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeyAnty Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, gwi1890 said: From someone who has a downs brother, this has made my month. I know first hand how much it will mean to this young man 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, gwi1890 said: He's let himself go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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weedman Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: He's let himself go. Being totally serious, has he? I mean obviously he's still an absolute specimen, but he doesn't look as ripped as he has previously or is that just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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