sharkyvilla Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Eastie said: I don’t want him sacked and nobody said he needs to win every game but if his current rate of 2 in 13 continues for much longer than people have every right to question whether he is the right man for this club . if he is the right man then great , but he needs to turn this around as the pressure on him will quickly build with results and performances like we’ve seen recently . should we finish this season closer to the bottom 3 than the top 6 then it will be hard to justify his position I think he's the right man for the rebuild, but whether it'll be too toxic by then for him to continue I'm not sure. Plus if Wagner is still without a job, then it would be tempting. It's just so depressing again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, sharkyvilla said: I think he's the right man for the rebuild, but whether it'll be too toxic by then for him to continue I'm not sure. Plus if Wagner is still without a job, then it would be tempting. It's just so depressing again. Or jokanovic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 He can't do the job with these players, so in reality, he can't do the job. I just didn't think we expected we would have to endure the rest of the season without hardly winning a game, awaiting Dean to bring his own team in. I certainly don't think the board planned this either. It's not the best squad but its not this bad. Playing not to lose like I have said before, he's making the squad nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 No team is getting promotion with the likes of Hutton and this midfield we have. This winter transfer window was a disaster really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 16, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: He needs until at least the end of the season, and if they DO sack him (which I currently don't want them to), it needs to be a TOP **** manager otherwise we may as well keep him. He will get until the end of the season, certain of that. In my opinion he has 13 games to show that he’s the man to take us into next season. I’m not sure what he has to do in order to show that, in terms of number of wins, but more than two, put it that way. I’m not chomping at the bit to get rid, but I’m also not gonna defend him to the hilt. Feeling very neutral on him at the moment to be honest. Obviously I know we should be doing better than we have been doing, but taking the various factors into consideration, I’m not exactly sure how much better we should be doing. Jury’s out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowlersrs Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I really think we need a complete overhaul now in the summer. All the old dross out, new formation, I'm hoping we switch back to a 442.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Those asking for this to be turned around are in for quite a tough time between now and the end of the season. We need to accept the fact that he has about 5 decent enough players to select each game and after that we are useless. They cannot play his way because they are either too old, too slow or both! He needs his players but, will the board give him that license to do his thing? Time will tell but I do fear that we will continue in the same way until the end of the season and then his position will be in the balance, especially if the likes of Rodgers becomes available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, dudevillaisnice said: No team is getting promotion with the likes of Hutton and this midfield we have. This winter transfer window was a disaster really. Very tough time to be gutting and rebuilding a team in January. It's the accumulation of several disastrous transfer windows that is the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Wonder when the last time west brom turned up to villa Park and beat us comfortably without us scoring. Only Rotherham and Ipswich have conceded more than us, things are starting to get embarrassing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: ALSO, please tell me who else we had to put on for Hutton? elmo!!! oh right... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 16, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: elmo!!! oh right... We did have Bree too until it was decided we wouldn’t need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merson08 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Bruce was toss but he would of done better than this. Jokanovik or Wagner. DS cant get a tune out of what he described as an embarassment of talent. Now were the embarassment of the championship like we were in the premier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 You have to wonder if being a Villa fan, he would actually walk if he felt he was doing more harm than good. Sad times all round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: We did have Bree too until it was decided we wouldn’t need him. i think bree is the same as what we did when we got relegated, he's been sent out to play every week in preparation for next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Merson08 said: Bruce was toss but he would of done better than this. Jokanovik or Wagner. both a success in the championship but a failure and sacked in the PL what would it achieve? promotion at all costs regardless of us being shit when we get there and having to start again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merson08 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: both a success in the championship but a failure and sacked in the PL what would it achieve? promotion at all costs regardless of us being shit when we get there and having to start again? Sounds better than league one bud. Wagner did pretty good in the prem considering how little he spent over 4 transfer windows there. Edited February 16, 2019 by Merson08 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 The man is deluded. “Nothing in the game” **** me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) A manager with only mid table finishes to his name should never be good enough credentials for the Villa job. The board is as much of an issue as Dean Smith is. Edited February 16, 2019 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just now, jim said: The man is deluded. “Nothing in the game” **** me! Time to hold his hands up and accept some of the blame himself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 He will get next season for sure. We put up with Bruce for ages and while it's not going well under Smith he deserves a chance to get some of his own players in. We aren't getting promoted with this squad and the injuries we have had to Grealish & Axel. Our full backs and CMs are shocking and yet we had to prioritise getting a keeper and CB in as those areas were even worse! I don't want Hutton, Whelan, Taylor, Jedinak, Thor, Elmo playing but you look at the other options and you can see why a few of them are in the starting 11 each week. The whole squad needs an overhaul. Only Grealish/McGinn could leave Villa and move to a better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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