Jareth Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Hutton will struggle with these Rs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, New_Hope said: I love this guy's approach '4 R's of football' as opposed to Bruce's 4 W's Work hard Work hard Work hard Work hard #thereorthereabouts Steve's were everytime he **** off on holiday during an international break. Rest, Recovery, Relaxation and Rotisserie. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I think I'd rather watch that training session than most of the games we've played in the last 5 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peterms Posted October 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, TheAuthority said: But how are they gonna play when he doesn't tell them to put wor boots on? I'm not sure my old heart can cope with the sudden change in tactics. Can it be phased in gradually? I'm accustomed to being able to take a little nap during matches. It may take some time to adjust. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jareth said: Hutton will struggle with these Rs. That's unfair. He's often found on his Rs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, hippo said: Hope not - Houllier tried that ended up with a very unhappy squad and a shed load of injuries. I don't buy the fitness thing anyway - most pro's like to keep fit - I will also be little disappointed if smith starts his reign bleating out that old cliche 'these players have appalling fitness levels" whilst some fitness work is important where I feel we are lacking is a lack of cohesion going forward - and organisation in defence Was more in reference to the quality of training with the football that i was getting at. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, PieFacE said: This is what I've wanted for for a long time. I hate the "you don't change a winning side" mentality, you do, depending on the opposition. Yes, I know it was in the stone age, but it worked for Ron Saunders... Edited October 11, 2018 by mjmooney 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jareth said: Hutton will struggle with these Rs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Weight of the pass. Type of pass. Receiving the pass. Filthy words if your Steve Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 We have some limited players and i hope they can adapt to Dean's philosophy. If they can't they should be shown the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I think this'll be good. Happy that JT is part of this - he had such a huge impact last season and I think will have the humility to want to learn from Dean. Hoping that JT will also give the quick uplift before Dean's plans kick in. Fixtures coming up may be harder than we've failed at so far, but we shouldn't fear anyone and I hope we don't from here on. Top 2 by Xmas please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I don't want to piss on everyones parade - But we have appointed a bloke who has been moderately successful at Walsall and Brentford. Overall under the circumstances I think its a good appointment. But I think some are getting carried away - lets not forget we played Brentford of the park a few weeks back - and I thought they were very poor - DS is also on a 5 game winless streak at Brentford. Bruce had his shortcomings, and he had run his course at Villa - Dean smith brings a fresh approach - but he isn't going to perfect - he will have shortcomings too - Hopefully less than SB (or else what was the point). I hope we win games, I hope we play well - But DS will have to work with what he has - that may involve Jedinak at CB - Hutton continuing at FB - Etc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, AshVilla said: We have some limited players and i hope they can adapt to Dean's philosophy. If they can't they should be shown the door. I'd say we have players playing below their potential and I'd like to see if that can change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peterms Posted October 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, hippo said: I don't want to piss on everyones parade - But we have appointed a bloke who has been moderately successful at Walsall and Brentford. Overall under the circumstances I think its a good appointment. But I think some are getting carried away - lets not forget we played Brentford of the park a few weeks back - and I thought they were very poor - DS is also on a 5 game winless streak at Brentford. Bruce had his shortcomings, and he had run his course at Villa - Dean smith brings a fresh approach - but he isn't going to perfect - he will have shortcomings too - Hopefully less than SB (or else what was the point). I hope we win games, I hope we play well - But DS will have to work with what he has - that may involve Jedinak at CB - Hutton continuing at FB - Etc Yes, quite reasonable to be a little cautious at this early stage, and wary of the hype. But you'll excuse some of us for being excited at the prospect of moving towards a style of football that you might reasonably expect people to pay to watch. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, hippo said: I don't want to piss on everyones parade - But we have appointed a bloke who has been moderately successful at Walsall and Brentford. Overall under the circumstances I think its a good appointment. But I think some are getting carried away - lets not forget we played Brentford of the park a few weeks back - and I thought they were very poor - DS is also on a 5 game winless streak at Brentford. Bruce had his shortcomings, and he had run his course at Villa - Dean smith brings a fresh approach - but he isn't going to perfect - he will have shortcomings too - Hopefully less than SB (or else what was the point). I hope we win games, I hope we play well - But DS will have to work with what he has - that may involve Jedinak at CB - Hutton continuing at FB - Etc I think that night a few weeks ago was like the Bristol city and wolves games at VP last season. No real plan but for some reason, emotionally charged and full of energy but what's that 4-5 games over Bruce's time in charge we played like that. Pretty pathetic. Your right Smith will have to cut his cloth accordingly but the takeaway is he believes the game should be played in a certain way and he's not gonna change. Either the players do or they'll be moved on. Mitch Clark would probably get a game right now under Smith. Edited October 11, 2018 by Johnnyp Mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, hippo said: I don't want to piss on everyones parade - But we have appointed a bloke who has been moderately successful at Walsall and Brentford. Overall under the circumstances I think its a good appointment. But I think some are getting carried away - lets not forget we played Brentford of the park a few weeks back - and I thought they were very poor - DS is also on a 5 game winless streak at Brentford. Bruce had his shortcomings, and he had run his course at Villa - Dean smith brings a fresh approach - but he isn't going to perfect - he will have shortcomings too - Hopefully less than SB (or else what was the point). I hope we win games, I hope we play well - But DS will have to work with what he has - that may involve Jedinak at CB - Hutton continuing at FB - Etc Yet they held us out and totally bossed the game second half missing 3 guilt edge chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, peterms said: Yes, quite reasonable to be a little cautious at this early stage, and wary of the hype. But you'll excuse some of us for being excited at the prospect of moving towards a style of football that you might reasonably expect people to pay to watch. I agreed with the original post, and with this. I think we'll see some movement towards a style, but I suspect the change this dramatic will take some time and do fear that some will turn critical if we aren't man city in a week (huge exaggeration for clarity of my point, not to mock). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, hippo said: Bruce had his shortcomings, and he had run his course at Villa - Dean smith brings a fresh approach - but he isn't going to perfect - he will have shortcomings too Consistency will be the biggest issue. Sometimes it isn't possible to play pretty football and you have to win ugly - like many of Bruce's successes. Smith strikes me as a bit of a Martinez... Gets plaudits for good football but doesn't win enough to be a success. I hope DS learns to adapt and, if he does, we will be a force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Django_Zooms said: You were wrong. Martin O’Neill was the last time. This will be infinitesimally better. Eh? So this is going to be an almost immeasurably tiny bit better than MON's tenure? Like same points, one less goal conceded or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Not sure if this has been posted or not but it gives a little insight into his coaching methods. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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