VillaChris Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 When do we play Norwich again? Feels harsh but inevitable that will be game when they get officially relegated such is the way football works. He'll get a standing ovation regardless anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Was thinking today we'll do well to clear 45 points this season, which puts last season's 55 point haul into perspective. It was really good going from Deano with a weaker squad and Jack out for 1/3 of it. We were flirting with top 6 for most of it, and I'm convinced we'd have been there or thereabouts (no Bruce) had Jack stayed fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DJ_Villain Posted March 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: Was thinking today we'll do well to clear 45 points this season, which puts last season's 55 point haul into perspective. It was really good going from Deano with a weaker squad and Jack out for 1/3 of it. We were flirting with top 6 for most of it, and I'm convinced we'd have been there or thereabouts (no Bruce) had Jack stayed fit. Weird to think that last season saw us beat Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal (twice), Chelsea and Spurs… Smith oversaw all of that - and deserves to be proud of that achievement considering he hasn’t any “Champions League” or “International” footballing pedigree… We did need a change, but everything Deano did for us deserves thanks and appreciation… in my opinion anyway 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, DJ_Villain said: Weird to think that last season saw us beat Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal (twice), Chelsea and Spurs… Smith oversaw all of that - and deserves to be proud of that achievement considering he hasn’t any “Champions League” or “International” footballing pedigree… We did need a change, but everything Deano did for us deserves thanks and appreciation… in my opinion anyway Not just wins either, the Liverpool and Arsenal games were proper thrashings. Imagine thrashing the reigning champions by 5 goals. The stuff of legend. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Keyblade said: Was thinking today we'll do well to clear 45 points this season, which puts last season's 55 point haul into perspective. It was really good going from Deano with a weaker squad and Jack out for 1/3 of it. We were flirting with top 6 for most of it, and I'm convinced we'd have been there or thereabouts (no Bruce) had Jack stayed fit. But he doesn't have a fancy name for Purslow ego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: But he doesn't have a fancy name for Purslow ego Purslow hired Dean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, Villa_Vids said: Purslow hired Dean. In Championship when we were not an attractive team. Smith paid no money and got us promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Zatman said: In Championship when we were not an attractive team. Smith paid no money and got us promoted I respectfully disagree. It was a big rebuilding job but we were very attractive at that point with the new investment. Smith was hired for the job by Purslow and DS succeeded. It worked out. I do not buy the narrative that Purslow was out for Smith. Purslow was often Smith's biggest backer in interviews. Smith remarked he had an "excellent working relationship" with Purslow when he left, so the theory does not add up. That said, I think everyone was desperate for Smith to succeed this season, especially in front of Villa fans too after the COVID restrictions. Sadly he was well backed but it was a bridge too far for Dean. We move on and look to the future. I think people are seeking an authority figure to hate with Purslow, it is unfair IMO. Edited March 20, 2022 by Villa_Vids 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Villa_Vids said: I respectfully disagree. It was a big rebuilding job but we were very attractive at that point with the new investment. Smith was hired for the job by Purslow and DS succeeded. It worked out. I do not buy the narrative that Purslow was out for Smith. Purslow was often Smith's biggest backer in interviews. Smith remarked he had an "excellent working relationship" with Purslow when he left, so the theory does not add up. That said, I think everyone was desperate for Smith to succeed this season, especially in front of Villa fans too after the COVID restrictions. Sadly he was well backed but it was a bridge too far for Dean. We move on and look to the future. I think people are seeking an authority figure to hate with Purslow, it is unfair IMO. What did I say that was wrong. Smith actually paid nothing and got us promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Zatman said: But he doesn't have a fancy name for Purslow ego Steven gerrard isnt a fancy name, pretty standard british name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted March 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Villa_Vids said: Sadly he was well backed but it was a bridge too far for Dean. We move on and look to the future He was well backed apart from the context of the league, he had a mid table squad with mid table spending on lower end of the league wages safely in mid table And I don't see anything in Gerrard that is different apart from the wages have also now gone mid table, we aren't better, we aren't doing anything now that was beyond Smith Deano losing his job was impatience and a jittery fanbase and this unfair belief of a ceiling handing purslow the bullet 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) And FWIW I think we didn't have a push for Europe last season because the players gave up mid January This season were as inconsistent as ever and have days like west ham and yesterday because the players gave up mid January Who knows what the answer is but seemingly our last 2 managers don't know it, this team needs a lot more money spent on it still but money alone won't fix it Edited March 20, 2022 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: He was well backed apart from the context of the league, he had a mid table squad with mid table spending on lower end of the league wages safely in mid table And I don't see anything in Gerrard that is different apart from the wages have also now gone mid table, we aren't better, we aren't doing anything now that was beyond Smith Deano losing his job was impatience and a jittery fanbase and this unfair belief of a ceiling handing purslow the bullet Fair enough. I do not fully agree with your assessment. It was evident that Smith struggled without Grealish, and we had struggled at the back end of last season which continued into this season. The pre-season was a disaster IMO, not entirely Dean's fault with the COVID stuff & Grealish saga. Smith biggest factual achievement this season is losing five in a row with two different clubs. But I think the club made the right choice. There was a real danger of us being involved in a relegation scrap and finishing well below what the board were demanding. It is right to demand more from a coach who has been well backed and been here near three years IMO. It was a objective decision and it reversed our fortunes. It was a short term success. I think the fanbase would have given him until the end of the season nevertheless. He was/is popular here. Purslow would have given him time if he was hovering around 12th place, no doubt in my mind. CP acted on behalf of the club's best interests. The club is bigger than Dean Smith. That said, Gerrard may well come to the same end. We cannot predict. He has not been perfect nor is he infallible. Gerrard is much more shorter into his reign, he deserves more time to implement his ideas. I think Gerrard's approach is much more short term and bringing in players who can deliver "now". Smith preferred to be patient and develop players at the expense of short term results. It cost him his job IMO. We need to find a middle ground of both those visions. Lange needs to take more responsibility for the footballing side now and be under more scrutiny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 If deano got sacked and took over west brom what would you opinion be of him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: If deano got sacked and took over west brom what would you opinion be of him ? Why would anybody care. Management is his job and he would be joining a team close to home, it not like he is joining a rival from us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 14 hours ago, Demitri_C said: If deano got sacked and took over west brom what would you opinion be of him ? I’d wish him good luck, really. He’s a lovely man, to whom I’ll forever be grateful for the job he did for Villa, and he doesn’t owe us anything. Guy needs to work somewhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Best of luck to Dean Smith wherever he goes, and he has proven he is a solid manager perfectly capable of managing major teams. I think he will win promotion with Norwich next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 16 hours ago, Demitri_C said: If deano got sacked and took over west brom what would you opinion be of him ? They have never been in our stratosphere, in fact I had to look them up, nope just a small.local team, let him go there, he'd probably be one of the best managers they've ever had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Mic09 said: Best of luck to Dean Smith wherever he goes, and he has proven he is a solid manager perfectly capable of managing major teams. I think he will win promotion with Norwich next season. I think if everton go down they will bankers to win championship Same with watford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I think if everton go down they will bankers to win championship Same with watford Both cant be bankers Watford only went up automatically as Brentford threw it away with Norwich top all season Edited March 21, 2022 by Zatman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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