MaVilla Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: LoL can't imagine Bruce on WhatsApp STEVE BRUCE - ATTENDANCE AT COMPUTERS FOR DUMMIES - DAY 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 45 minutes ago, MaVilla said: was that Barnsley home or away? Had a goal and an assist. Should have been two assists but Kodjia's left leg was offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 7 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Made me laugh how he said he had a whatsapp chat group with Jesus and Purslow discussing transfers. Discussing transfers? Work WhatsApp groups exist purely as a means of exchanging porn. Or maybe thats just my works WhatsApp group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 4 hours ago, MaVilla said: STEVE BRUCE - ATTENDANCE AT COMPUTERS FOR DUMMIES - DAY 1 I'm awful on computers mate so I really shouldn't throw stones but that must be the laziest photoshop attempt I've ever seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 20/12/2018 at 01:19, Dave-R said: While I wished it was my imagination, there have clearly been a number of posts that sound too negative towards Smith for this early on in his career at Aston Villa. Some people do sound as though they are getting ready to jump on Smith's back if he drops the ball abit. One thing we need to be aware of is giving our utmost full support and at most see the difference in constructive criticising instead of jumping down Smith's throat. I feel that if we do not go up there are going to be plenty who will turn again, all because promotion wasn't achieved in one season. We shall see if fans are really willing to change there attitudes towards managers we get in that obviously deserve that time. The owners have stated if this season isnt a promotion then it isn't a big demand that we do go up straight away under Smith. The owners have said it takes as long as it takes to get it rite and we as fans have to also take that into our hearts and minds that we may yet have a few more seasons or so before we are back in the top flight again. The main thing is we have a very excellent Coach, who can actually focus on many things at our club that will eventually bring us back to a level we have been failing to play at for around 2 decades. Dean Smith I would say is a solution that this club needs so it's best we drum up all the support we can for as long as it takes. We will no doubt have some lows under Smith, let's give him the time he needs to get it rite, Dean has an excellent mind and we are fortunate to have him at villa. Where i am sure the past two decades of managers failed to bring success. I think Given time Dean can be that man for us, he is sharp enough to adapt when faced with challenges. I am curious as to Smiths planning for trying to undo Leeds, a game I feel we have no choice but to win if we are to close the gap and keep chasing the pack. I have no real problem with what he has done so far. Personally I feel the opposite about the perception of Dean Smith - For example the home draws against Forest and Stoke - were passed off by many as decent results against two of the better teams in the division ...7th & 11th respectively ? As for the bit I have bolded - I hope you're right - but I am not quite sure where that belief is coming from - ? to me there is nothing on his CV to suggest that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 I just love this man's press conferences, totally captivating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 20/12/2018 at 16:47, MaVilla said: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/dean-smith-aston-villa-transfers-15579434 Interesting article, especially this for me: all i gotta say is HALLELUJAH!, developing our own players rather than other teams players, anyone would have thought it rocket science?!?!?! That's great - if our players are better than those we can loan from other clubs. For instance, do we have a player at home better than Abraham? Just a thought! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, villarocker said: That's great - if our players are better than those we can loan from other clubs. For instance, do we have a player at home better than Abraham? Just a thought! I think DS means/hopes that in the future we will have more & better u23's ...hope he is right...dont think there is an awful lot there currently and for some reason they seem cursed by injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, villarocker said: That's great - if our players are better than those we can loan from other clubs. For instance, do we have a player at home better than Abraham? Just a thought! you are technically correct, but lets not judge the symptom, lets look at the disease, the fact we are in the championship, third season in, sitting here saying we dont have a better forward at the club than Abraham who is on loan, kinda points to the past/historic mis-management and disastrous decisions that have lead us to this point. My point isnt that Abraham/Bolasie/El Ghazi are/arent better than what we have, but they need to be considered as part of the overall picture over many years, and it shows that to even be having this discussion shows how far we have fallen, we shouldnt even be in the position to have a scenario where loan players are better than our own. But, we are, and such is life, we are where we are because we deserve to be, but lets have faith in Deano & Purslow Edited December 21, 2018 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 Sounds like the strategy now is to stop loans and develop our own if we can sign players. It's a good in a way but if we didn't utilise thia system we wouldn't have el ghazi boalise or Abraham and we would be nowhere near promotion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I think we have an option to buy El Ghazi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Abraham scored 2 goals for us under Bruce whereas in the last 6 games under Smith he's scored 8 (and missed loads of sitters). Is it the striker or the system? Not saying Davis or RHM would score as many, but we havent seen anyone else play in this system yet, they are being written off using evidence of when they played in a negative system. Also don't think DS particularly means the youth players but all the players in the squad who don't get to play because of the loan signings. Personally think Kodjia or Hogan would be free scoring too in this system. For example Snodgrass cost £2m to loan for just a season, double that and you could buy a young up and coming player who could be useful for many years. Its not sustainable to constantly rely on loan signings, remember Bruce moaning how he had to "start all over again" at the start of the season? Smith wants to build a team rather than rely on loans every year and I welcome that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Junxs said: Abraham scored 2 goals for us under Bruce whereas in the last 6 games under Smith he's scored 8 (and missed loads of sitters). Is it the striker or the system? Not saying Davis or RHM would score as many, but we havent seen anyone else play in this system yet, they are being written off using evidence of when they played in a negative system. Also don't think DS particularly means the youth players but all the players in the squad who don't get to play because of the loan signings. Personally think Kodjia or Hogan would be free scoring too in this system. For example Snodgrass cost £2m to loan for just a season, double that and you could buy a young up and coming player who could be useful for many years. Its not sustainable to constantly rely on loan signings, remember Bruce moaning how he had to "start all over again" at the start of the season? Smith wants to build a team rather than rely on loans every year and I welcome that. Good point about the chances Abraham has had. Any striker with good movement will get a lot of chances in this system. For me ive been really impressed with his general play more than his goals. He is a real handful for defenders and links up play superbly. I don’t think any other player in our squad could do it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I enjoy going to games again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, av1 said: I enjoy going to games again. Brilliant isn't it. I can watch us and not get bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 22/12/2018 at 01:36, hippo said: I have no real problem with what he has done so far. Personally I feel the opposite about the perception of Dean Smith - For example the home draws against Forest and Stoke - were passed off by many as decent results against two of the better teams in the division ...7th & 11th respectively ? As for the bit I have bolded - I hope you're right - but I am not quite sure where that belief is coming from - ? to me there is nothing on his CV to suggest that. Its not as simple as drawing with 7th and 11th at home. You need to look at the circumstances. Thats why I was more gutted drawing with WBA away (which should be a good result) yet I’m fine with Stoke result and mixed about Forest result. We played our first game without Jack against one of the toughest sides defensively (Derby couldn’t score against them when they had only 10 players). I’m not saying we won’t win without Jack but against a team like Stoke it was always going to be hard to break them out. While against Forest they’ve only lost 2 by then. They were the second strongest defence. So to come back from an early 2-0, and kept coming back was good character to see. Yet the drew at the end which made it a bit hard to take, while if they scored the 5th before and we drew them we would have taken it. WBA in the other hand we were above them in their place, and got robbed at the end. So that game which we all got gutted after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 21/12/2018 at 23:09, av1 said: I'm awful on computers mate so I really shouldn't throw stones but that must be the laziest photoshop attempt I've ever seen Not enough fingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limvillian Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 He bloody has to learn to shut games Down..so frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 As I've always said, lots and lots of work to do. This half is top 5 worst I've seen since we've been at this level, just so, so poor, shambolic, disgraceful defending but the midfield pretty much disappeared. New backline required and better quality in central midfield. At least the new keeper is sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Poor today and wrong substitutes .... has to take a whack of the blame for today ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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