Zhan_Zhuang Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Poor today. Really poor. I can't make my mind up if it's Smith that's the problem or the players we've signed. I think we're just a bit shit across the ball. I'm not convinced a different manager can get more out of this team in all honesty. Bit of both the players bought aren't good enough, we should have gone and moved heaven and earth for two players like Milner and Cahill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Feet Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, rbcuk said: He can’t come out and defend them after that shocker today Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 When and with whom does he get replaced ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, hippo said: Yep - poor recruitment - many of this big signing s won't do great job in the championship imho. Man management is one of the most important aspects for a coach in modern football. Ancelotti is the master of it. If the players aren't up for it then Dean fails to motivate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 I guess he's defended the players a lot and not got a reaction. Time to try something else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dale said: I don't want to test out an unknown manager who's style I've no idea of... The point of having Purslow and Pitarch is that we should have a list of managers in back pocket at all times rather than stumbling from one identity to another at will. I do agree. I have said before that we should only get rid of Smith if we have someone better to come in. Problem is It is unlikely to find someone better at this moment. I just don’t think we can stick with Smith as it’s almost certain relegation. Give the job to JT for the rest of the season and at least try something different. At the moment it is like Groundhog Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, terrytini said: As I say I see your view but don’t share it. Not that I think we have some wonderful players, but that I don’t see them as any different to players in half a dozen other sides. We aren’t failing to compete against Southampton or Bournemouth because of their quality. In my view. I think part of it is complete lack of confidence. And I think the confidence is shot because of how poor we've been most of the season. There isn't a single signing in the summer that I can say has been a real success. Even Mings is hard to say that he's been a brilliant signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, hippo said: When and with whom does he get replaced ? November. Terry. Or someone really shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Worst performance I have seen under him today. But I'm still behind the guy. Our position is perilous - but so is, West Ham's, Watford's, Bournemouth's, Brighton's. McGinn back next league game will make a big difference in the worst position on the pitch for us - both in terms of quality and fight. Shame it's against Leiciester but I think that performance today is as bad as you'll see from us this season. It better be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 I don't agree with slating players in public. I don't believe it helps the situation in any way shape or form. When you do that you run the risk of losing players. Welcome to modern football- Man management is everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, M_Afro said: I do agree. I have said before that we should only get rid of Smith if we have someone better to come in. Problem is It is unlikely to find someone better at this moment. I just don’t think we can stick with Smith as it’s almost certain relegation. Give the job to JT for the rest of the season and at least try something different. At the moment it is like Groundhog Day. My point is that I'd expect us to have a list of names to pursue rather than just handing go JT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Davkaus said: At what point did I say people were explicitly saying it? Oh right - just an assumption based on no-one saying it. Excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, villalad21 said: Man management is one of the most important aspects for a coach in modern football. Ancelotti is the master of it. If the players aren't up for it then Dean fails to motivate them. Smith isnt blameless - but Konsa, Nakamba, Trez, Jota, Guilbert, Wesley - will never cut it in the PL - no matter who the manager is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dave-R said: Still a chance to save survival if we got rid of Smith asap and fetched a premier experienced Coach in. I agree but don’t think purslow will sack him as it would be admitting he was wrong in giving him a new deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, terrytini said: We aren’t failing to compete against Southampton or Bournemouth because of their quality. In my view. That's what we get for throwing an inexperienced bunch together and expect them to go out and survive the toughest league on the planet, not to mention make wins happen. It really looks as though we belong in the EFL.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Much rather him come out and say it how it is then defend the players, some of these players need a rocket up the arse and hopefully this might do the trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, Dale said: My point is that I'd expect us to have a list of names to pursue rather than just handing go JT I suspect you will be disappointed. Who else did they have in frame when DS was recruited ?.....Henry ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Allowed 28 shots today apparently Blatantly obvious that whatever pro's the 3 at the back in theory could provide they are not offsetting us totally giving up the midfield. The 5 at the back has to stop so we can get another body in CM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, hippo said: Smith isnt blameless - but Konsa, Nakamba, Trez, Jota, Guilbert, Wesley - will never cut it in the PL - no matter who the manager is. I'm sure we said that to some of our players last time we got relegated as well. Most of them have done ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dale said: My point is that I'd expect us to have a list of names to pursue rather than just handing go JT I get that Dale but that’s assuming that suitable people are available or attainable right now which seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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