Popular Post VillanousOne Posted March 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Philosopher said: I don't want to make him a scapegoat, I like him. I am happy with him being part of our squad. I just don't like how he is seen as undroppable, as for me he lacks quality on the ball, and tactical discipline off it so shouldn't have the status he has. I guess part of the problem is that they all are midtable players, so they are all lacking in some areas. I do favour Ramsey and Luiz, because technically they are good players and they are both young enough to push on and improve. I also feel Luiz has rarely been played in his best position and role. For me the fact Mcginn is seen as a lynchpin when in my eyes he's as expendable as Sanson doesn't do him any favours. I would actually prefer to keep Sanson in many ways as I'd like to see what he is capable of with a run in the team, which we haven't been able to see as yet. I don't see anything more than a somewhat reliable midtable central midfielder. I like him a lot but he is only ever effective in 1 out of 4 or 5 games, yet he is undroppable. It makes no sense, he doesn't get many assists or score many goals or do anything to repay that faith both Dean and Gerrard show in him. Being a nice bloke and consumate professional is awesome but is it enough? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Absolute workhorse every fan and commentator knows that and goes to great lengths to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Absolute workhorse every fan and commentator knows that and goes to great lengths to tell. I've gone blind. I can't find him on this graph! Please help. And why does Bernardo Silva get a pointy line to his dot but no-one else does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 39 minutes ago, ender4 said: I've gone blind. I can't find him on this graph! Please help. And why does Bernardo Silva get a pointy line to his dot but no-one else does? To make his dot into a lolly. His reward for covering the most distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Mr Inconsistency. He's not a scapegoat he's just limited. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 He is over rated by a section of the fan base......and when we play the elite teams it stands out. He is a popular guy and that can easily camouflage, the analysis in these cases. The problem is, as a squad, we lack his passion, very few of our players have it like him......but until we recruit a better balanced midfield, in terms of attributes, he has to stay in the team. We need a quality CDM, but we need a quality "ratter" too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, TRO said: He is over rated by a section of the fan base......and when we play the elite teams it stands out. He is a popular guy and that can easily camouflage, the analysis in these cases. The problem is, as a squad, we lack his passion, very few of our players have it like him......but until we recruit a better balanced midfield, in terms of attributes, he has to stay in the team. We need a quality CDM, but we need a quality "ratter" too. I don't think either McGinn or Luiz are playing the roles they are best suited to, and with Nakamba's injury any chance of that changing vanished. On top of that we are trying to shoe horn Buendia and Coutinho in a midfield that was already unbalanced. A large percentage of the games we lose, we lose because we don't win the midfield battle, we get kicked and elbowed all over the park and get nothing from refs, (it's almost like it's pay back for the 1000s of free kicks Grealish used to win us), we have no height, no physicality, no edge. McGinn's arse majestic as it is, doesn't always prove to be the WMD needed. Chuk looks a player, but he doesn't have the work rate or physicality to fill the gap, Tim is probably the answer but I can't see Doug or John being dropped for him yet. We have to get beyond the 'can do a job there' mentality. I think come the summer when Doug and possibly Chuk are gone we get to remould the entire midfield, obviously would rather keep both and see us strengthen. Edited March 14, 2022 by VillanousOne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 14 hours ago, VillanousOne said: I don't think either McGinn or Luiz are playing the roles they are best suited to, and with Nakamba's injury any chance of that changing vanished. On top of that we are trying to shoe horn Buendia and Coutinho in a midfield that was already unbalanced. A large percentage of the games we lose, we lose because we don't win the midfield battle, we get kicked and elbowed all over the park and get nothing from refs, (it's almost like it's pay back for the 1000s of free kicks Grealish used to win us), we have no height, no physicality, no edge. McGinn's arse majestic as it is, doesn't always prove to be the WMD needed. Chuk looks a player, but he doesn't have the work rate or physicality to fill the gap, Tim is probably the answer but I can't see Doug or John being dropped for him yet. We have to get beyond the 'can do a job there' mentality. I think come the summer when Doug and possibly Chuk are gone we get to remould the entire midfield, obviously would rather keep both and see us strengthen. Its a situation that has miffed me, way before Steven Gerrard arrived.....its been left to fester for too long. Your observations are spot on and SG seen it first hand on Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmeedson Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 McGinn and luiz have struggled far too long in that midfield and will until we get that general in there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I just hope we aren't playing him because of his personality. That isn't enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Mcginn is statistically our second best player this season behind Coutinho and does a lot of the grafting that often goes unnoticed. He is clearly underated by some on here, who seem to think replacing him is a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 A few good crosses but generally poor today. We needed the energetic McGinn not the lethargic one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Only has two tricks, and neither are of much use when he's not absolutely on it. Hate to lose a likeable character, but he needs replacing with an actual footballer at some point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 When he's bad, he's SO bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Dreadful slows up the play all the time trying to get it onto his left foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, the_eristic said: Only has two tricks, and neither are of much use when he's not absolutely on it. Hate to lose a likeable character, but he needs replacing with an actual footballer at some point. Agree. 90 minutes of McGinn ain't it. Let him run himself ragged and then get someone else on. Eventually we find someone who can bring his high energy levels and technical ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Against good teams, the poor technical level of the likes of McGinn and Watkins (and Cash despite his recent upturn in form) is glaring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Nice guy, the joker in the dressing room and good for morale but a squad player at best. Totally fed up of him now starting matches and doing nothing; gave the ball away on fifty minutes which almost gave Arsenal a second. I've been saying it for so long but he's never a top eight player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 What frustrates me is dropping him doesn’t mean he’s done as a Villa player. Give him a **** rest. Imagine him coming off the bench with those gutsy runs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 He has reached his limit. Both he and Luiz are sellable and I think this is exactly what will happen in the window, might be a case of a player swap perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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