bobzy Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: Players and referees definitely don't do the same job. But I couldn't really disagree with you any more so a pretty pointless debate between us when we see it so different. Agreed - they don’t do the same job. What a player does on the pitch has far, far, far more impact than what a referee does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 I don't think anyone has said any differently. Comparing a player negatively affecting his own teams result to a neutral affecting a teams result is so completely bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 On 02/03/2021 at 12:58, bobzy said: Honestly? Football fans. Look at the amount of nonsense that comes about over a referee making a mistake. “He should come out and publicly own it”, “they’re obviously corrupt” - it just doesn’t happen to the same extent with other sports. Abuse is not even close to being on the same level. Death threats because you made a mistake in your job? It’s ridiculous. At the weekend, Ellis Genge got death threats for not clapping Wales players. The BBC reporter Sonia got foul abuse because of her questioned. Unfortunately, it’s social media, people can hide behind their keyboards and get away with abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 The new Champions League format has the clubs negotiating a system that the top clubs will not be allowed to buy from each other 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 8, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Zatman said: The new Champions League format has the clubs negotiating a system that the top clubs will not be allowed to buy from each other Where's that reported Zatman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Wouldn't that go against some EU free movement rules or something? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Where's that reported Zatman? It was on Irish radio earlier, ill see if can find a link bit its being led by the Juventus chairman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Quote Plans are being discussed that would prevent Champions League clubs from buying players from each other, the European Club Association (ECA) president has revealed. Andrea Agnelli told the press of a number of ideas that were on the table as 184 of Europe’s top clubs gathered at the ECA’s 25th general assembly, reports Matt Slater of The Athletic. The major talking point was the revised structure of the Champions League to be put in place post-2024 which will apparently see a return to the ‘Swiss model’ and four more teams added to the competition. It will be “beautiful” and close to “ideal”, says Agnelli, with the sticking point said to be how the extra four slots will be awarded – league places of “historic merit”. Agnelli also said 20-team top flight leagues were unsustainable and mused over the changing habits and attention spans of the youth of today, asking how many of them watch a full 90 minutes. But perhaps the most out-of-the-box point was made in reference to Champions League teams buying players from each other. Agnelli said the teams were discussing the possibility of teams in Europe’s showcase competition being banned from transfers between themselves, instead forcing them to shop further down the ladder. https://www.football365.com/news/champions-league-inter-club-transfer-ban-discussed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 38 minutes ago, sne said: Wouldn't that go against some EU free movement rules or something? It does have the stink of something the next Bosman or Webster might burst given a fair wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, Zatman said: Agnelli also said 20-team top flight leagues were unsustainable and mused over the changing habits and attention spans of the youth of today, asking how many of them watch a full 90 minutes. Is it what we're doing to the sport that's turning people off? No, it's these youths, and their attention spans... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) The new CL format is a total dogs breakfast purely designed to make more money. Well obviously. When everyone's interest in round robin format is declining they propose to extend that section to 10 games. This will surely spell the end of the League Cup so that 60 plus years of football history in the bin then. There would be no way that they could fit it in the fixtures with this new format. So one less trophy Villa could win every season. Edited March 8, 2021 by The Fun Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: The new CL format is a total dogs breakfast purely designed to make more money. Well obviously. When everyone's interest in round robin format is declining they propose to extend that section to 10 games. This will surely spell the end of the League Cup so that 60 plus years of football history in the bin then. There would be no way that they could fit it in the fixtures with this new format. So one less trophy Villa could win every season. If they did make a change to the league cup I think they’d just exclude PL teams and get rid of the football league trophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 8, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 8, 2021 The biggest clubs can no longer afford to operate in the way they have - United, Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid are absolutely drowning in debt. The changes are all around trying to stop that - he want's to keep transfer fees down, he wants to make sure the big clubs play in the Champions league and qualify for the later stages and he wants to provide earlier games that will generate more TV money. He's also talking about reducing the size of the Premier league to eighteen clubs. Arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 minute ago, bannedfromHandV said: If they did make a change to the league cup I think they’d just exclude PL teams and get rid of the football league trophy Well maybe but UEFA don't like domestic cup competitions the same week as European weeks so I can't see how they will fit it in unless they just ignore that rule. The other option is to to let the European teams to field U23 sides which I think would make it a bit of a mockery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted March 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 8, 2021 This is utter madness. Really hope this new structure doesn't get approved. It's complete nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: If they did make a change to the league cup I think they’d just exclude PL teams and get rid of the football league trophy I think they should exclude European teams from it That way there'll be a cycle of European qualifiers keeping it fresh and making the league Cup exciting on paper with the likes of us, Everton, West ham, wolves, arsenal all going for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Will anyone want to watch it though it the 'so called big 6' are not in it? What would the television money be like, sponsorship etc. Would lower league clubs really be bothered if they can't get a plum tie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 45 minutes ago, PieFacE said: This is utter madness. Really hope this new structure doesn't get approved. It's complete nonsense. It's as good as done. Just debating now how the extra 4 spots will be spilt between the leagues. I expect it will be two wildcard for the two best mid tier leagues and 2 spots for the biggest leagues so england should get 5 CL teams every few years. Predictions of demise will be grossly exaggerated. We will just have to wait and see how the changes play out. One thing we might see is that the league cup becomes a competition for teams not in europe. That would be odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 I think the not buying players from elite clubs also might work against them financially unless they put a cap on transfer fees which is definitely illegal. Not sure what also makes these elite clubs. Cant be somebody like Arsenal or Spurs for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 8, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, Zatman said: I think the not buying players from elite clubs also might work against them financially unless they put a cap on transfer fees which is definitely illegal. Not sure what also makes these elite clubs. Cant be somebody like Arsenal or Spurs for example It can be if Spurs or Arsenal get the Champions League wild card position based on their coefficient. He's said the aim is to avoid any more three figure transfers. I think it's one aimed at stopping PSG or Citeh dominating the Champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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