Xela Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 We had the best out of Benteke. He's history now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted January 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, Xela said: We had the best out of Benteke. He's history now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 53 minutes ago, Xela said: We had the best out of Benteke. He's history now. At this level though I'd expect him to be one of the best in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I'd be tempted to recall McCormack. Agnew has Hogan firing i don't see why he couldn't do the same with Ross. He's scoring some crackers now down under i know it's not a very good league but still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, AshVilla said: I'd be tempted to recall McCormack. Agnew has Hogan firing i don't see why he couldn't do the same with Ross. He's scoring some crackers now down under i know it's not a very good league but still. If he's not a disturbance in the locker room then maybe at best. If we don't get Ulloa then I hope we're in for a plan b. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AvfcRigo82 Posted January 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, osmark86 said: If we don't get Ulloa then I hope we're in for a plan b. What made Ulloa your expectations Mark? I'd call it ill manners. Edited January 21, 2018 by AvfcRigo82 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 On 18/01/2018 at 23:44, holteend1982 said: This isn't fifa, you can't just get rid of a whole squad especially one that has just been promoted then replace them all and get them to gel within the 5 weeks before the season begins! Taylor, jedinak, landsbury would be decent squad players for a promoted side.bree has been signed for the future, I can see hogan doing good in the prem providing he finishes this season strong and all them youngsters are good enough to be part of the squad even if we got promoted. Your last post was also rediculous when you said benteke was "utter shite" This isn't Fifa or Football manager?.. Damn. I would never have noticed. Just out if pure interest, tell me how many of that said group would you say would cut it in the premiership next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 hours ago, AshVilla said: I'd be tempted to recall McCormack. Agnew has Hogan firing i don't see why he couldn't do the same with Ross. He's scoring some crackers now down under i know it's not a very good league but still. Got left out of squad mid December for turning up extremely late to training. He's a bad apple. Don't want him anywhere the club again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, AvfcRigo82 said: What made Ulloa your expectations Mark? I'd call it ill manners. Lol are we after the old Plan B from 5 years ago or the new one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Villan4Life said: Lol are we after the old Plan B from 5 years ago or the new one? Has he had bad past experiences of trousers falling down, or is that an improvised bomb vest? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: Has he had bad past experiences of trousers falling down, or is that an improvised bomb vest? Word to the wise @HanoiVillan do not write the words bomb vest on the Internet. Oh shhhhhiiii...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted January 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, villaglint said: Word to the wise @HanoiVillan do not write the words bomb vest on the Internet. Oh shhhhhiiii...... Oh that last shout will clear things up! Edited January 22, 2018 by Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 19 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Same as Idrissa Gueye said. To be fair as much as it stings, you've got to appreciate their honesty. African players/players of African descent usually have a very clear goal, make as much money as I can, while I can. Agreed it is a pity though and i cannot help but not like that attitude but it is more often than not the case with the players in the game today. The player who identifies with one club is a rare if not an extinct breed in football today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 19/01/2018 at 11:45, bobzy said: This is **** bonkers and a huge part of why we are where we are now. It isn’t Football Manager! If we got promoted, we’d need a squad - not 7 players and an entire new squad to buy. Blimey. Not an entire new one, no. But we wouldn't get far with some of the remaining players that would be here. If they are deemed not good enough for this league what makes you think they will make it in the Prem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Not an entire new one, no. But we wouldn't get far with some of the remaining players that would be here. If they are deemed not good enough for this league what makes you think they will make it in the Prem? We probably wouldn't get far you are right. However you can't just go up, sell 14 players, keep 7 and then buy a new 14. The reason the club will look at a 3 year stabilizing plan when we go up is to drip feed new players in. For example sign a new center midfielder to start, sell Lansbury, Hourihane then has competition to start for a year. Sign a defensive midfielder, sell one of Whelan or Jedinak (not both) The reason we went down two years ago is because we tried to sign a complete new team and it failed miserably. It's pretty much why Blues are in the position they are currently in also. In my opinion, with the squad we currently have, playing as they currently are we would do well against a lot of the lower Premiership teams, add a bit of quality to that and we would have a fair shot of finishing near the top of the bottom half of the Prem. Keep adding over the 3 years and the club will be back competing in the league. Unfortunately gone are the days of getting promoted and immediately signing a load of world class footballers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 13 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: This isn't Fifa or Football manager?.. Damn. I would never have noticed. Just out if pure interest, tell me how many of that said group would you say would cut it in the premiership next season? Its about building a good squad is my point. Adding to it rather than wholesale changes, your idea of just throwing money around making awful decisions is one of the reasons we are in out current position. We need a slow transition of adding 4 or 5 players a season and getting some stability back in our side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Not an entire new one, no. But we wouldn't get far with some of the remaining players that would be here. If they are deemed not good enough for this league what makes you think they will make it in the Prem? You add bits of quality at a time once you sell some players. Wholesale changes very rarely work out perfectly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) So we technically from this list above have a squad of 36 players on our books in or around the first team. (Yes the chop list was a bit mad looking back) So, would we be looking to trim the squad down to say around 22-25 players once back in the PL? 11 of the players on the quoted above, of which 5 are first team players, will need replaced [loans & OOC] and will be gone come June. And or unless new contracts are handed etc. This could leave us with 25 players technically, allowing a few will need to be replaced by quality and form a new spine for the team if you will. For me Richards, Taylor, McCormack, Tshibola, Lyden, Jedinak would be the ones I would look at replacing initially as they are not good enough for the PL. I can see us bring in around 5 signings minimum and anywhere up to 11/12 players leaving. Edited January 22, 2018 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, AvfcRigo82 said: So we technically from this list above have a squad of 36 players on our books in or around the first team. (Yes the chop list was a bit mad looking back) So, would we be looking to trim the squad down to say around 22-25 players once back in the PL? There is also this thing that seem to be happening in the summer. Quote UEFA CLAMPDOWN Uefa will impose new transfer rules from this summer to limit clubs on spending ‘losses’ of more than £90million Both Manchester United and Manchester City made transfer losses of £130m, while Uefa also set to limit clubs to 25 over-21 players in squad NEW transfer rules that would place limits on spending “losses” are set to be imposed by Uefa from this summer. In a move that appears to have been targeted at mega-rich Paris Saint-Germain and Manchester City, clubs will be prevented from running a deficit on spending of more than £90million per season. Paris Saint-Germain signed Neymar for a world-record fee of £198million from Barcelona last summer Manchester City paid close to £50m to bring Kyle Walker to the Etihad from Tottenham And they will also be banned from “stockpiling” players — with a limit of 25 pros over the age of 21 allowed on the books of any club. Uefa have come under pressure from Spanish giants Barcelona and Real Madrid to clamp down on the “state aid” that allowed PSG and City to outspend their rivals last summer. Barca were furious they found themselves powerless to prevent Neymar moving to PSG — who are owned by the investment arm of the Qatari government — while similar criticisms have been directed at Abu Dhabi-owned City. And in what appeared to be a pincer movement orchestrated by the traditional elite of the European Clubs Association, the new proposal for “Financial Fair Play 2.0” is being prepared to go on the table in May. Liverpool sold Brazilian international Philippe Coutinho to Barcelona for £142m this month Citizens boss Pep Guardiola has splashed the cash since taking charge of the Premier League side Current FFP rules mean clubs are only allowed to lose £26m when wages, transfer fees and income are balanced over a three-year period. Although investments on stadiums, training facilities, youth development and women’s football are discounted from costs. The new regulations would end the overall calculation and apply only to transfer spending each season. This term, of the Premier League clubs, only City and Manchester United would have fallen foul of the new limit, as would PSG and Italian giants AC Milan. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5395238/uefa-to-impose-new-transfer-rules/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, sne said: There is also this thing that seem to be happening in the summer. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5395238/uefa-to-impose-new-transfer-rules/ Very interesting indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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