The push for the Play offs ?

[Demitri_C]

58 minutes ago, markavfc40 said:

It is actually 38 from 26 which over a season would get us around 67 points and a top 8 finish. It is not really a true reflection though as he had no preseason and came into a squad on a dire run and a club on the back of years of struggle without an away win for 14 months.

I was hoping that he would have enough of an impact to get us into the play offs but it hasn’t transpired that way but you don’t have to look far to find reasons, beyond simply throwing the manager under a bus, as to why that is the case.

I am supremely confident that off the back of what I expect will be a strong finish to this season and a full pre season we will hit the ground running next year and ultimately be promoted.

As for what we can still achieve this season I think a top 10 finish, putting to bed the dire away form and instilling a wining mentality should all be achievable.

On  reflection I do think for the long term future of our club it's best we don't go up this year as I think we would finish bottom as it stands. One more season as a team and I think once we have the mentality back we will be more prepared for Premier league

[NulliSecundus]

On ‎14‎/‎03‎/‎2017 at 01:43, KSV said:

Negative nancies. I was quite fair. We drew one game against Brighton in the remaining fixtures

Geez i had to manipulate a few things as well to ge that to happen. Thats how unlikely it is. 

 

#	Team		M.	W.	D.	L.	Goals	Dif.	Pt.
1		Brighton & Hove Albion	46	30	10	6	80:41	39	100
2		Newcastle United	46	29	9	8	88:42	46	96
3		Huddersfield Town	45	28	5	12	63:48	15	89
4		Leeds United	46	25	8	13	67:50	17	83
5		Reading FC	46	24	9	13	66:59	7	81
6		Aston Villa	46	20	13	13	58:45	13	73
7		Fulham FC	45	19	15	11	77:56	21	72
8		Sheffield Wednesday	46	20	12	14	60:46	14	72
9		Derby County	46	19	13	14	52:41	11	70
10		Preston North End	46	19	12	15	65:57	8	69
11		Norwich City	46	18	12	16	77:68	9	66
12		Barnsley FC	46	16	13	17	61:62	-1	61
13		Brentford FC	45	16	11	18	64:63	1	59
14		Cardiff City	46	15	13	18	61:67	-6	58
15		Queens Park Rangers	46	15	10	21	48:63	-15	55
16		Ipswich Town	46	12	17	17	46:57	-11	53
17		Birmingham City	46	13	13	20	45:66	-21	52
18		Wolverhampton Wanderers	44	13	11	20	52:57	-5	50
19		Blackburn Rovers	45	12	14	19	52:62	-10	50
20		Burton Albion	46	12	13	21	44:61	-17	49
21		Nottingham Forest	46	13	9	24	62:78	-16	48
22		Bristol City	46	11	12	23	55:67	-12	45
23		Wigan Athletic	46	9	13	24	38:57	-19	40
24		Rotherham United	46	5	5	36	36:104	-68	20

Have a like. If only for the sheer lunacy of it all...

[Junxs]

6 hours ago, Demitri_C said:

So let's break this down.  Di Matteo games

Won 1 Drew 7 lost 4 in his first 12 games

Bruce first 12 games

Won 7 Drew 3 lost 2 then the run that followed to February was 

Won 0 Drew 2 lost 8 (which I agree was very poor)

But difference is bruce was given time based on HOW he started and his first 12 results were 10x better di matteos flop era. And it was proven correct sticking with him with 5 wins out of 6

 

Dude,

You've turned this into a Bruce v Di M debate which was not my point at all. You keep ignoring the point I'm trying to make. I actually prefer Bruce over Di M.

But the fact remains Bruce had 35 games to get into the play offs and was only what, 8-10 points from 6th when he took over?

You tried to blame di m in your original post. What I'm saying, now pay attention - the run of form of picking up 2 points from a possible 30 is what killed the promotion push. Possibly the worst run of form over 10 games we've had in the last 10 years... but no , lets blame it all on Roberto.

Bruce is extremely lucky the board stuck with him through that abysmal run.

I'm not defending DiM and think he's rubbish, so please dont throw any more stats to prove how snit he was as id only be agreeing with you.. but that won't change the facts ive posted above.

 

[Demitri_C]

3 hours ago, Junxs said:

Dude,

You've turned this into a Bruce v Di M debate which was not my point at all. You keep ignoring the point I'm trying to make. I actually prefer Bruce over Di M.

But the fact remains Bruce had 35 games to get into the play offs and was only what, 8-10 points from 6th when he took over?

You tried to blame di m in your original post. What I'm saying, now pay attention - the run of form of picking up 2 points from a possible 30 is what killed the promotion push. Possibly the worst run of form over 10 games we've had in the last 10 years... but no , lets blame it all on Roberto.

Bruce is extremely lucky the board stuck with him through that abysmal run.

I'm not defending DiM and think he's rubbish, so please dont throw any more stats to prove how snit he was as id only be agreeing with you.. but that won't change the facts ive posted above.

 

Fair enough I do think di Matteo's start definitely contributed as well as the poor run from January. But I just find with the poor start we were always going to struggle at some stage of season

[Grasshopper]

Does anyone really think we will make the playoffs?

It's only 50/50 because it will either happen or not.

Dig all the optimism but the goalposts have now been moved so that the remaining games are an extention of next seasons preseason

[Lord Willard]

I don't think we will but...

Edited March 17, 2017 by Lord Willard

[KSV]

Sheffield lose again. Fulham Newcastle to play. A few tricky away games. They gone. Fulham are in the ascendency now. 

[wilko154]

I keep opening this thread to see if anyone now 100% believes we will make it...

Deep down I know its not possible, and it's probably best we have another season to rebuild the club and the team against weaker opposition (albeit not as weak opposition than we anticipated)

[rubberman]

41 minutes ago, KSV said:

Sheffield lose again. Fulham Newcastle to play. A few tricky away games. They gone. Fulham are in the ascendency now. 

I always think that at this stage of the season goal difference becomes a pretty good indicator of where teams should be.  

We're about right. Fulham should be higher.  Huddersfield and Reading lucky to be where they are - could all still go wrong.

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

Both Huddersfield and Wednesday obliterated by opponents you'd think they beat on paper.

This league I tell ya.

Hopefully sends Wednesday on a downward spiral, along with other teams.

Win tomorrow and we are 11 points off!

Well depending on Fulhams result of course.

Edited March 17, 2017 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN

[Nigel]

Oh dear Small Heath...That drop zone is looking a tad close!

[HanoiVillan]

One goal for the run-in - I want us to finish ahead of Colin rocket polisher. 

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

4 hours ago, wilko154 said:

I keep opening this thread to see if anyone now 100% believes we will make it...

Deep down I know its not possible, and it's probably best we have another season to rebuild the club and the team against weaker opposition (albeit not as weak opposition than we anticipated)

You are probably right, but at least it gives us a little something to be excited about through the run in, as a pose to just being solidified lower - mid table with nothing to play for. (Thought it's arguable thats where we currently are)

[Demitri_C]

Even if we were in the mix, one problem.we still can't win away from home

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

1 hour ago, Demitri_C said:

Even if we were in the mix, one problem.we still can't win away from home

 

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SATURDAY 4TH MARCH 2017

Aston Villa eased to their third straight win to heap more misery on Championship bottom club Rotherham.

 

 

[Tommo_b]

Well I'm positively excited about today, another win and this thread will gain more traction and believers! 

[Demitri_C]

6 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

 

 

To be fair Rotherham are absolute dross. If we can start going places like Fulham and Burton and win then I'll accept we are v back 

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

Derby and Preston drawing are both absolutely bloody great results for us!

We need a win!

[AshVilla]

[KSV]

Hmm. .