Demitri_C Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, terrytini said: I don't disagree with that. I do 'blame' him for picking Richards !! (just opinion though when it comes to players I know) and I do think as Manager he is/was in a position to get the Team doing more of what I complained about (the 50-50's, pressing the ball, pushing up etc). I don't/didn't expect miracles, I know he has had them only briefly, their total absence was disappointing. Yeah I know what you mean about the rb terry. Unfortunately with de laet out for season, we are limited. The alternatives are Hutton (god did you see him mistake that almost us??!) or bacuna. I think bacuna would be better used at cm. we are screwed at rb until January. I would say it was more than disappointing id say it was a complete shambles from the plYers. I'm stick to death already of hearing excuses from these players. They are Professional footballers paid ridiculous money. If they can't handle it retire and get another career change. Edited October 15, 2016 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 22 minutes ago, AshVilla said: The sheikh of muscles Clearly he was the shite of muscles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 If you change something and you don't see immediate improvements.... then you've changed the wrong thing or changed it to the wrong thing. Was working until 7.30 so recorded the game and just finished watching it. I mean, seriously, wtf was that? Not a patch of difference. Not even a bit of extra energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 10 minutes ago, terrytini said: See my above Post. I'm not saying everything was his fault, far from it, and I'm well aware he's only had as long as Warnock has had (?) but that doesn't mean he gets a 100% free pass from me, which he did from you when you said "obviously no blame to Bruce". Just different view that's all, I think certain things were within his control to a certain extent, and I was disappointed in them. i dont think warnock has taken on such a shit house as bruce tbh. but im not getting into that. i respect your opinion teri. were all aiming for the same goal at the end of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Big week already ahead for SB here. Two defeats would be a disaster and be a huge blow to confidence. However, if we can get 4 or 6 points then maybe things will turn? Who knows, but huge disappointment today because at the very least I expected some energy, drive etc. First half time team talk to beat a local rival and nothing? Not even a shot on target in the second half. I would have the boys in tomorrow and get working with them as much as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I said it all season, the players, McCormack apart, show no signs of urgency throughout games. They stroll along like a bunch of Billy big bollocks' and the opposing team have as much time as they like to do whatever it is they like. We need to be a lot more physical as a team and to be that Bruce will need to sign players because the current bunch don't have it in them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 15, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2016 Oh well, I suppose 48 hours to turn us around was asking a lot. Hang in there Stevie boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Awful RDM has left us with a massive hole in the middle of the park He needs to do something radical in midfield. Find someone in the reserves, recall someone, play someone from a different area of the team. Something jedinak has completely gone. Tishbola looked very average. Richards and Cissoko really really poor and no positional sense at all Not sure at all about Grealish. I wasn't that he was that bad, it's just that I can't pinpoint a position that he can play in. Not a winger and not a midfielder Potentially our best(?) players are all forwards so must always leave two or three of them on the bench and play very average players elsewhere Big big money needs to be spent on two or three a grade midfielders, until then Bruce needs to come up with an XI who can keep their heads above water terrible mess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woodytom Posted October 15, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2016 And how..... how many **** managers is it going to take to get a professional football team throwing the ball to each other? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) If fitness is the issue then we need to rotate more and give the players a chance to get back up to level. Tuesday i would play Lyden, Amavi, Bacuna, Baker, gestede and possibly Gardner. So much of our current team needs dropping. gollini bacuna -- baker --- Chester -- amavi lyden --- tish --- gardener ayew (or grealish) kodjia -- gestede Has to be worth a try, if lyden isn't fit or ready then play bacuna in midfield and put Richards or Hutton at rb. Edited October 15, 2016 by VillanousOne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 15, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) I just pray he has now seen our problems up close an personal now and unlike RDM has some ideas how to fix them. At least the problems are the same as they have been so it's not a case of him plugging a leaking pipe with his finger only for a new leak to spout elsewhere. I suspect the issues we have cannot be properly fixed until the transfer window because of our truly horrendous midfield but hopefully he can devise a sticking plaster in the mean time. Edited October 15, 2016 by sidcow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 His decision to play Cissokho ahead of Amavi baffled me. He must have a knock if he didn't even make the squad. He has had two days training with the squad so I won't fault him, he has to assess the mess he has in front of him. But he could have at the very least had them fired up for a local derby. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Don't see how we can blame Bruce for the performance today. He's had 2 days with them. We were sitting in the relegation zone of the championship before he'd had one match with them for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Woodytom said: If you change something and you don't see immediate improvements.... then you've changed the wrong thing or changed it to the wrong thing. Was working until 7.30 so recorded the game and just finished watching it. I mean, seriously, wtf was that? Not a patch of difference. Not even a bit of extra energy. I think it's easy to make up pretend quotes to fit anything—on the 'if you change something and you don't see immediate change logic', it's pretty impossible to change all the playing staff in October. Never mind the fact that he's had about three days with the same shit players as before, many of which have been away on internationals. There's being unreasonable and then there's being really **** unreasonable. Edited October 15, 2016 by praisedmambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Just now, praisedmambo said: I think it's easy to make up pretend quotes to fit anything—on the 'if you change something and you don't see immediate change logic', it's pretty impossible to change all the playing staff in October. I've said it many times over the last 4/5 years..... Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Don't see how we can blame Bruce for the performance today. He's had 2 days with them. We were sitting in the relegation zone of the championship before he'd had one match with them for a reason. Question... had they won 2/3-0.... what would you have said about Bruce involvement? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Woodytom said: I've said it many times over the last 4/5 years..... Thanks. So by your logic, Di Matteo was the wrong thing to change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Just now, praisedmambo said: So by your logic, Di Matteo was the wrong thing to change? Not necessarily.... read the original post again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Just now, Woodytom said: Question... had they won 2/3-0.... what would you have said about Bruce involvement? I'd have said it was a positive impact as it's completely different to what we'd seen for a long time. A draw with a poor performance is the norm, so can't blame him for having 2 days and seeing the team be exactly the same as before he came 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 27 minutes ago, Woodytom said: And how..... how many **** managers is it going to take to get a professional football team throwing the ball to each other? One. It should only take one good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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