Popular Post Villan_of_oz Posted September 19, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) I liked Steve as a bloke, but his constant little digs at anyone who disagrees with him, well he can get stuffed. I will now enjoy the day he gets sacked. Edited September 19, 2018 by Villan_of_oz 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted September 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) It won't happen but I would give the board all my savings to sack him tomorrow. That would be hilarious! Edited September 19, 2018 by Villan_of_oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Last nights abject performance was more ammunition for those of us who want him gone. There's loads of talent in that team now and more than enough to be in the top two. The only thing we are missing is a centre back and a competent manager. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 The rules need to be changed though, we can't be allowed to be the only club to buy and sell players, it gives others a head start on us. Also, maybe we need to look at training, perhaps going with three at the back in pre season, changing it for the first game, and then changing it again a few games later. I think chopping and changing players will help them all settle too. Am I mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted September 19, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Months? Interesting. Since the summer? I wanted him replaced when we lost the play off final. I was backing the option of keeping him in the summer, but that was entirely because of the financial abyss we were staring into. My reasoning was that if we were going to have a squad decimated by a firesale then no manager would want to come here so keeping Bruce in that situation might have been a good option. If the new owners had taken over in May then I would have been 100% backing Bruce to be sacked. I've consistently said all summer that if a good replacement is available then he should go. People on here often confuse defending Bruce on anything with wanting him to stay, such is the binary nature of VillaTalk. People can't bear to hear anything positive about the manager in case it somehow weakens their Bruce Out stance. I'm one of those weirdos who doesn't think Bruce is a terrible manager, does think he does some things right; but doesn't think he's done well enough here and doesn't want him as our manager any more. Edited September 19, 2018 by Stevo985 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2018 9 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Tearing my hair out with rage behind the sofa like you wouldn't believe! Despite your conclusions that you've arrived at, it was a massive 3pts for the Villa! Well I mean you literally said you didn't want us to get 6 points out of this week's games. So it wasn't a hard conclusion to come to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2018 wow for all the (at times personal) abuse that's been given towards Bruce there are quite a few sensitive little souls when digs appear to be turned back towards them aren't there...which for the record i don't think they were as he specifically mentions press i actually do think he had a point regarding the atmosphere at the grounds...i dont think the views of many on here reflect the wider fanbase, as it would have been evil last night if it did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Uncle Albert said: This is the "lovely man" steve bruces post match comments... The most intelligent people will see through all the nonsense and realise that we’ve got the makings of a decent team,” Bruce said. “We’re Aston Villa and the expectation at the club is huge, I understand that. “But a little bit of common sense is needed because unfortunately it filters through to the mad few. Thankfully we’re back on the road again and we’re now into sixth. “Hopefully it shuts a few of them up but I doubt it.” As for debates about whether I should be in a job or shouldn’t be, I think my record speaks for itself.” Sorry steve on behalf of all us thick blind fans.. Again demonstrating why he is a total ****!. Total professionalism. The sooner he is gone the better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Well I mean you literally said you didn't want us to get 6 points out of this week's games. So it wasn't a hard conclusion to come to. For the wrong reasons Stevo and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted September 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, tomav84 said: wow for all the (at times personal) abuse that's been given towards Bruce there are quite a few sensitive little souls when digs appear to be turned back towards them aren't there...which for the record i don't think they were as he specifically mentions press i actually do think he had a point regarding the atmosphere at the grounds...i dont think the views of many on here reflect the wider fanbase, as it would have been evil last night if it did Well, no. 1) The press is remarkably on his side. They bang on about 4 promotions, financial issues, basically parroting back his pathetic excuses with zero scrutiny. 2) If we were winning every week and people were having the same moans then fair enough, a pop is probably reasonable. But we're not, we're playing like total shite, we have the best squad in the division and we don't have any sort of style of play, It's a feature of his time here. Bad run, feels the pressure, moans about the fans, we win a game unconvincingly and he gets all cocky and arrogant about how he will never win us over. We gave him AMPLE time to win us over and that he hasn't put together an identify, a style, a pattern of play in over 2 years here is a huge failing and he deserves everything he gets from us. He says his 'record speaks for itself'. It does Steve. Every club you've been at, you've made them into the underdog with small expectations. The two clubs with expectation, you've failed and been kicked out while slagging off the fans. I wanted him gone after the embarrassing PO final and I haven't changed my mind. I'm even more sure of it now. He's a embarrassment to the football club. Edited September 19, 2018 by StefanAVFC 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2018 Just now, AvfcRigo82 said: For the wrong reasons Stevo and you know it. Don't worry, we'll probably lose on the weekend. That should cheer you up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 You two sound like a married couple 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: You two sound like a married couple Rigo clearly has a crush on me. I've told him I'll dress up like Rafa for him but I think it scared him off. Rigo? I'll call you Axel in bed. Fancy it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted September 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tommo_b said: Is it wrong that I kinda get where Steve is coming from? Although the performances need to be better and the defence situation is a shambles, I expect us to improve dramatically and be up there, we have Abraham’s, bolasie, mcginn, grealish and el ghazar all to learn eachothers natural game, once they do that can you imagine how dangerous we COULD look going forward. If I was him I’d personally want to bash you a-holes too That is what he should be saying though! Explain that and be bullish about we will get better as they learn from each other and nobody would moan about his press conference. Obviously even Stevie Wonder can see that we are disjointed and play shite for most of the 90 mins. If you come out after and say we won but we have to play better and say I think we will as we bond then no one can argue. Edited September 19, 2018 by S-Platt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, S-Platt said: That is what he should be saying though! Explain that and be bullish about we will get better as they learn from each other and nobody we would moan about his press conference. Obviously even Stevie Wonder can see that we are disjointed and play shite for most of the 90 mins. If you come out after and say we won but we have to play better and say I think we will as we bond then no one can argue. I stopped caring what he has to say a long time ago. Too much ego. Keep winning games and say what you want Steve. Just get ready for a backlash if we go on a losing run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 My guess he knows he is being watched like a hawk by the new owners and is trying to justify everything he does; he brings up Jedinak and says he received some criticism from “some quarters” so he will carry on playing Jedinak as a way of saying he knows what he is doing and to prove people wrong. I have no problem with that if it works but we have seen time and time again that doesn’t work and there is no doubt in my mind Jedinak will mess up again at the back. He claims he has tried to play 2 upfront for a while but couldn’t do so, why couldn’t he do so? He has for the majority of the time had two strikers on match days. Throughout his career I’m not sure he has played 2 upfront the majority of the time either? What he says and what we see on the pitch are two completely different situations. You can tell he is genuinely annoyed the local paper dare question him.. just carry on winning Steve and some of the criticism will rightly disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Tommo_b said: Is it wrong that I kinda get where Steve is coming from? Although the performances need to be better and the defence situation is a shambles, I expect us to improve dramatically and be up there, we have Abraham’s, bolasie, mcginn, grealish and el ghazar all to learn eachothers natural game, once they do that can you imagine how dangerous we COULD look going forward. If I was him I’d personally want to bash you a-holes too The problem is, he’s had a strong squad the entire time that he’s been our manager and yet we are still not a good team as a collective. In this a-hole’s opinion of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 You don't think all the shit on the clubs twitter gets fed back to him in any way? Team announcements are met with hundreds of messages saying what a load of shit & he doesn't know what he is doing, Bruce out etc. all through the games the same & after the match the same thing, We only won because our players are better, Bruce is lucky etc... Man city, Barcelona, Liverpool, Real Madrid etc win most games for the same reason, It doesn't require some tactical genius, If you have far better players than the opposition you should generally win more often than lose for the simple reason that they are more likely to do something that will change the game in your favour. We won 2-0 at a stroll against a team that offered pretty much nothing, Takes 2 teams to make a game and there was only one trying to do anything on the pitch for about 80 minutes last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest_bertie Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 In his interview he said the bit about having two up top and being something he’s wanted to do for a long time but hasnt been able to. I dont rememeber us doing this when we had all the strikers avaialble. Is it me with selective memory or steve? Also notice how at that point he starts scratching the side of mouth, commanly interpreted as an indication of deception, that or covering the mouth or scratching nose is a comman gesture if lying. Or maybe he wasnt, i just have an interest in psychology and asses to much. What really gets me though is his insistance to verbally shut down any critisim of him as soon as someone even dares to question him. He is very derogatory about critics, calling them mad. Which in Collymore’s case is very insensitive in regards his mental health issues over the years (if it was aimed at him and no matter how much of a nob he is) please just leave, so bored of the whole steve bruce show now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: You don't think all the shit on the clubs twitter gets fed back to him in any way? You know SB is one of these lads who doesn't know what twitter is. He probably has a Nokia 3310 that has 8 numbers in it. Rings up JT's voice mail every night just to hear his voice before bed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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