Made In Aston Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Zatman said: or Birmingham when he was consistently outspending DOL and I dont think ever finished above him He did in at least one season. Finished about 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: He did in at least one season. Finished about 8th. Nope. The best city have finished in the PL era is 9th, under McLeish. Bruce got them tenth, once, but was still below us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 4 hours ago, TRO said: to my knowledge he has never been fully funded in the Premier. wouldn't be upset with the appointment.....think he would organise the defence.....man of principle, shows character. He spent 11m on Michael Turner at Sunderland. Just think about that for a second. He spent loads at Sunderland...Bent came in for 15m when he was there. He spent a fair bit at Hull. His career record generally goes...he does well at the start building decent teams for little money then after a good season or two he goes to the owner demanding 30-40m and it all falls apart shortly afterwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) Steve Bruce finished (from Blues onwards) Birmingham City 01/02 - Championship - 5th (promoted via playoffs) 02/03 - Premier League - 13th 03/04 - Premier League - 10th 04/05 - Premier League - 13th 05/06 - Premier League - 18th (relegated) 06/07 - Championship 2nd (promoted) Wigan 07/08 - Premier League - 14th (took over in November) 08/09 - Premier League - 11th Sunderland 09/10 - Premier League - 13th 10/11 - Premier League - 10th 11/12 - Premier League - 16th (sacked in November) Hull 12/13 - Championship - 2nd (promoted) 13/14 - Premier League - 16th 14/15 - Premier League - 18th (relegated) 15/16 - Championship - 4th (promoted via playoffs) ................................................................................... Average finishes (finished seasons only); Premier League - 13.6 Championship - 3.25 Edited October 8, 2016 by dont_do_it_doug. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I'm thinking of Southampton and Lecistor. Once the manangers that got them promoted did what they had to do they were replaced with managers to take them to next level. Id expect something similar. Watford aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Who cares about what Bruce did at City? The big question is, do we want him as next Villa manager? He is a medicore manager who will only ever manage bottom half of Premier League at best! No, for me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, villarocker said: Who cares about what Bruce did at City? The big question is, do we want him as next Villa manager? Yes. We are in the Championship. He would take us to the bottom half of the Premier League. That should be our immediate aim and our only current aim. Edited October 8, 2016 by dont_do_it_doug. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sam3773 Posted October 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2016 I want stability over a wham bam thank you Bruce. Smith, Dyche and Wagner, while less experienced, strike me as a longer term manager. More of a wife than a quickie behind the VP bike shed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 For what it's worth I feel more confident we'd achieve promotion under Bruce than RDM. Although Bruce is not a great manger per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 I really wouldn't mind Bruce. He's not exactly awful and will no doubt get us promoted either this season or next, especially with backing. It's just not a very exciting appointment, is it? I don't understand how teams like Watford, Middlesbrough and Huddersfield etc have managed to bring in continental managers that have managed to 'hit the ground running' (hate that phrase) and bring with them an entirely different philosophy. With Bruce, we kinda know what we are going to get - and long term, it isn't what we want. But hey, I shouldn't be so greedy, maybe if we can win more than 1 game in 10, that's the dream at the moment when it comes to Villa. P UTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Sam3773 said: I want stability over a wham bam thank you Bruce. Smith, Dyche and Wagner, while less experienced, strike me as a longer term manager. More of a wife than a quickie behind the VP bike shed. As I've just demonstrated above he spent 6 years at Blues, 2 at Wigan, 2 and a half at Sunderland and 4 at Hull. He averaged finishes of 13th in the PL and 3rd in the Championship, promoted 4 times. I'm really not sure what Villa fans are expecting. There's a touch of unwarranted arrogance about the place. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted October 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2016 11 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Steve Bruce finished (from Blues onwards) Birmingham City 01/02 - Championship - 5th (promoted via playoffs) 02/03 - Premier League - 13th 03/04 - Premier League - 10th 04/05 - Premier League - 13th 05/06 - Premier League - 18th (relegated) 06/07 - Championship 2nd (promoted) Wigan 07/08 - Premier League - 14th (took over in November) 08/09 - Premier League - 11th Sunderland 09/10 - Premier League - 13th 10/11 - Premier League - 10th 11/12 - Premier League - 16th (sacked in November) Hull 12/13 - Championship - 2nd (promoted) 13/14 - Premier League - 16th 14/15 - Premier League - 18th (relegated) 15/16 - Championship - 4th (promoted via playoffs) ................................................................................... Average finishes (finished seasons only); Premier League - 13.6 Championship - 3.25 Thats a pretty good record. Especially when you look at the state those clubs are in now. Also shows his teams have character to bounce straight back. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 25 minutes ago, Sam3773 said: I want stability over a wham bam thank you Bruce. Smith, Dyche and Wagner, while less experienced, strike me as a longer term manager. More of a wife than a quickie behind the VP bike shed. The analogy is quite apt considering we've been getting screwed at home for years... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 52 minutes ago, villarocker said: He is a medicore manager who will only ever manage bottom half of Premier League at best! He should do alright in the Championship then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 44 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I'm really not sure what Villa fans are expecting. There's a touch of unwarranted arrogance about the place. Absolutely this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amed Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 43 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: As I've just demonstrated above he spent 6 years at Blues, 2 at Wigan, 2 and a half at Sunderland and 4 at Hull. He averaged finishes of 13th in the PL and 3rd in the Championship, promoted 4 times. I'm really not sure what Villa fans are expecting. There's a touch of unwarranted arrogance about the place. Right now Bruce is clearly the best man for the Villa job- he might not be in 2 years time if we are in the premiership but given we are 19th in the championship to get a manager in who has had so much success in this league and also the premiership would be fantastic! It might not be a fashionable appointment but frankly all any villa fan should care about is winning games regularly in this league - Bruce has done that at all his clubs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 10 hours ago, Zatman said: Roy Hodgson be a brilliant choice of manager and a lot better than Steve **** Bruce. he has actually had success in his career at least the highlight of Steve Bruce managerial career was Peter Enckelman Not the four promotions then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: He spent 11m on Michael Turner at Sunderland. Just think about that for a second. He spent loads at Sunderland...Bent came in for 15m when he was there. He spent a fair bit at Hull. His career record generally goes...he does well at the start building decent teams for little money then after a good season or two he goes to the owner demanding 30-40m and it all falls apart shortly afterwards. We spent 10m on veretout 8m on adama, every manager signs some duds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 I genuinely believe that this club is not in the position to be appointing continental managers that can change our philosophy. The moment we are in the Premier League is the moment that we will have the appeal to attract a manager that can change the philosophy of this club, Southampton and Leicester had to sack Adkins and Pearson to reach that next level. We may have Bruce for two seasons then get someone to build on his foundations. Let's be happy that we are about to appoint someone that does not know anything other than promoting teams from the championship. Let's be happy that we are going to have a system and stick with it. Steve Bruce will be licking his lips when he gets onto the training ground and actually see's the talent that we have. This squad is a lot better than the Hull side that he got promoted last season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgl Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 57 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: As I've just demonstrated above he spent 6 years at Blues, 2 at Wigan, 2 and a half at Sunderland and 4 at Hull. He averaged finishes of 13th in the PL and 3rd in the Championship, promoted 4 times. I'm really not sure what Villa fans are expecting. There's a touch of unwarranted arrogance about the place. That last sentence sums up my thoughts reading the forums over the last week or so. What do villa fans think that managers see when they look at us at the moment? I'd be pleased with Bruce, he has demonstrated repeatedly he knows how to get out of this division - that has to be our first priority, the longer we are down here the worse our promotion chances get. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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