DCJonah Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, villan_007 said: The 'football people' always get it. Yet lets look at the people you're labelling shambolic idiots. Advisors to big Tone. As far as im aware our football people are.... Steve Round Ian taylor Sir Brian Mr Wyness 3 of those have played more football than you've had hot dinners. The other has worked pretty much exclusively in football. 2 of them are our own. Just to clarify. Its these people you're pointing your pitch fork at?? Do people with experience in football always make the right decisions? It doesn't matter how experienced they are, we are sitting bottom in our second year of championship football. People are clearly making terrible decisions. I don't think they are shambolic idiots, but then again he didn't call them that. This club is a shambolic embarrassment on so many levels. I'm not sure what evidence you'd use to disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: Do people with experience in football always make the right decisions? It doesn't matter how experienced they are, we are sitting bottom in our second year of championship football. People are clearly making terrible decisions. I don't think they are shambolic idiots, but then again he didn't call them that. This club is a shambolic embarrassment on so many levels. I'm not sure what evidence you'd use to disagree. I wasn't disagreeing with him. I was more asking about the 'football people' tag. Which are now being targeted. Is the list i provided our football people? Is there anyone else? On paper you'd say its a decent selection. Especially tayls and little when it comes to villa decisions. Are they being listened to? Is one of them having a final say. If we're pointing the finger as some are, do they have reason for it. Or as it looks people just getting angry and blaming everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) I've no idea about the level of competence of those people. They could be the best there is, they could be the worst. But 2 of them being ex- Villa players is irrelevant to their competence. The others having worked in football is also - largely - irrelevant as to their competence. Somebody can have a career in something and still not be very good - I've known plenty ! Additionally having been ' in football' doesn't mean they've done the same Job Description as they do now. We have no idea how well or how poorly the Club is actually being run. What we can do is infer how we think it's being run from those things we CAN observe. And it's not entirely unreasonable to suggest that various issues including but not exclusively STs, transfers, and League position - especially when viewed in the context of the whole of games in 2017, or indeed the whole since the start of last season - might be cause for concern. Edited August 19, 2017 by terrytini 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 On 18/08/2017 at 00:35, Jareth said: Good night to you sir, and your dreams of a world where Chinese business-men are some distant alien threat, sleep well, in the 1970s, and when you awake, just remember that when you see someone who doesn't look like you, or is as narrow mined as you, just remember they might support the villa and not be full of prejudice. On 18/08/2017 at 01:04, AvfcRigo82 said: Yes. This I agree. I doubt that and don't agree. The Dr. has already stated his commitment to make us a force. I still believe this and cannot see him just giving up. Just look at how transfer prices have spiralled in the last 6 months......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I see Xia has ended his Twitter strike and posted something about today's hero Hourihane. Not on twitter myself but I'm sure someone can link it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AvfcRigo82 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Sounds like Mr Bruce has yet to win Tony's support still. Keep that fire lit under his arse Tony! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 A 4-0 win would have gain Bruce a bit of support from Xia, but those 2 goals we conceded will be a concern. Yes both were because Murphy was unplayable for parts of the game, but still we have to work on that as defence was meant to be our strong point this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 hour ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Sounds like Mr Bruce has yet to win Tony's support still. Keep that fire lit under his arse Tony! I doubt he will be happy with how he has been talking either to be honest. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted August 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Daweii said: A 4-0 win would have gain Bruce a bit of support from Xia, but those 2 goals we conceded will be a concern. Yes both were because Murphy was unplayable for parts of the game, but still we have to work on that as defence was meant to be our strong point this season. The ball he played for the second goal was amazing but we left him to run across our box from one side to another unchallenged and then put no pressure on him so he had ages to think about where to put it. Murphy was class but we were terrible at the back at times yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post terrytini Posted August 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I doubt he will be happy with how he has been talking either to be honest. I hope that's the case. Im more annoyed at his comments than his results, and that's saying something. He should've been saying " I ignore such comments but people are free to make them, and they will make them if performances or results are poor" or any number of variations on that. And I hope Tony realises why it's so infuriating. My views are just opinion, I accept that, but they are neither ridiculous nor nonsense. I've watched us 8 times since July and spent a few hundred quid. I've felt entertained -,apart from yesterday - for about an hour, I've seen us outplayed by almost everyone, I've seen little creative play, few goals, and at times - particularly at Reading - felt embarrassed. Ive seen little evidence of a style, a plan , a Plan B ( unless Samba counts) and I've seen us out fought, out run, and out played. All of which is on top of a generally poor 2017 overall under Bruce, and on top of a miserable 6 years. By all means Tony can tell Bruce 'stick up for yourself' but don't deride mine, or others, genuine heartfelt - and reluctant - criticisms as "ridiculous nonsense". Edited August 20, 2017 by terrytini 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 18 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I am a little concerned by this. Everyone knows that the DEVIL is in the details. Is the Devil Tony's god????? Oh my word, he is a devil worshiper, that is how we scored 4 goals yesterday. Gabby's soul has been sold. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: I am a little concerned by this. Everyone knows that the DEVIL is in the details. Is the Devil Tony's god????? Oh my word, he is a devil worshiper, that is how we scored 4 goals yesterday. Gabby's soul has been sold. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! In before the "You wouldn't get anything" etc posts 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 hour ago, TheStagMan said: I am a little concerned by this. Everyone knows that the DEVIL is in the details. Is the Devil Tony's god????? Oh my word, he is a devil worshiper, that is how we scored 4 goals yesterday. Gabby's soul has been sold. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Beats shumanites. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Tony owns majority stake in big Hollywood producer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Tony owns majority stake in big Hollywood producer? Millenium Films. Yes Quote Aston Villa owner Dr Tony Xia has added to his portfolio of businesses with the acquisition of Millennium Films. The Recon Group frontman has been looking to break into Hollywood for a while and plans to gain a foothold in the film business were revealed last October. Reuters reported last week that the deal to secure a 51 per cent majority stake would cost Recon up to $100million. http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-owner-tony-completes-12647876 Very old news. Edited August 21, 2017 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Millenium Films. Yes http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-owner-tony-completes-12647876 Very old news. I sort of knew but didn't realise how successful they were. Maybe some A list Hollywood stars can support us if we ever get promoted. Edited August 21, 2017 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I sort of knew but didn't realise how successful they were. Maybe some A list Hollywood stars can support us if we ever get promoted. Like Forrest Gump? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, momo said: Like Forrest Gump? Forrest Gump mistakenly bought shares in Apple thinking they were a fruit company, he still thinks we're West Ham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 26 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I sort of knew but didn't realise how successful they were. Maybe some A list Hollywood stars can support us if we ever get promoted. plastic fans pile on when only when you're a big success. If Johnny Depp doesn't support us now F___ him ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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