villa4europe Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 7 hours ago, Wainy316 said: Is the consensus we were going to be taken over anyway or do we have the irony of being relegated to thank for us having a glimmer of hope for the future now? If you believe the stuff about him first looking to buy Marseille for around £60-80m then it might be a case of relegation dropped us in to his price range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Posted June 19, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2016 8 hours ago, tismyk said: Taken from John Lerwills site, I was one of the hundreds that demonstrated outside the Evening Mail offices demanding the old board go in 1968, I am not defending everything DHE has done but without him and Pat Matthews we may have gone into liquidation http://www.lerwill-life.org.uk/astonvilla/a_villa_history.htm "In 1968 the club came very close to formal bankruptcy, but towards the end of the year, a consortium retrieved the situation and a certain Doug Ellis started his long executive career with the club" Pat Matthews was the one who took control of the club and put the bulk of the money into it in 1968. He brought in other investors and directors one of whom was the one that you have mentioned. That man came to us from Small Heath, tried to takeover Wolves in the early 80s and now has a stand named after him at Villa Park. That man took millions more out of the club than he ever put into it, rewarded himself very well for the time he spent at the club and referred to Villa fans as being merely "men of the terraces". John Lerwill said that he is "not defending everything" that our President Emeritus has done. I will not be defending anything that he has done. But that is water under the bridge and we now have a new owner. My focus is on his potential to prove a far better custodian than the two that went before him were. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 11 hours ago, useless said: Ellis probably doesn't have anything to do with the jets. No I think it was Bennie and the Jets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meregreen Posted June 19, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, tismyk said: Taken from John Lerwills site, I was one of the hundreds that demonstrated outside the Evening Mail offices demanding the old board go in 1968, I am not defending everything DHE has done but without him and Pat Matthews we may have gone into liquidation http://www.lerwill-life.org.uk/astonvilla/a_villa_history.htm "In 1968 the club came very close to formal bankruptcy, but towards the end of the year, a consortium retrieved the situation and a certain Doug Ellis started his long executive career with the club" Don't want to get into another debate about Ellis, his times gone. John Lerwill is entitled to his opinion. It doesn't make it fact. I was also there in 1968. Ellis was a bit part player, who being the chancer he is, saw his chance and jumped ship from the Blues board, to join a group of fans who had never been on Blues board, to save our club from the decaying state it was in. The main mover in all this was Pat Matthews. Ellis is a man who undoubtedly has a place in the history of our club. But his overwhelming motivation was his own personal advancement. Perhaps we should leave such a divisive character to history,and accept that there will always be different views on his tenure. Here's to a better future with Dr Xia. Edited June 19, 2016 by meregreen 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I would be very surprised if the new owner removed Doug's honorary title. It would be a pointless PR move for a very old man, who at least still goes and watches them at 92. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Wyness is quoted as saying that they're not going to get rid of Doug and he'll keep his honorary title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted June 20, 2016 Administrator Share Posted June 20, 2016 6 hours ago, useless said: Wyness is quoted as saying that they're not going to get rid of Doug and he'll keep his honorary title. Rather than teasing us all, can you say where you've seen that. If you can't link and quite then at just name the site or publication so someone else can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I was about to write that I wasn't teasing, but in a way, limpid, I think I might have been. I'm going to see if I can find the article right away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Birmingham Mail "When Doug Ellis used to come to Everton, he would put his arm around me and say: 'My biggest mistake was not signing you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted June 20, 2016 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2016 'Enters thread, sees Ellis discussion, quickly leaves.' 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2016 21 hours ago, useless said: they're not going to get rid of Doug and he'll keep his honorary title. What Clearing in the woods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Very good, but his title is 'President Emeritus'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/19/2016 at 11:43, AntrimBlack said: Yeah. We won the League and the European Cup. And he came from Birmingham City, quite the Villa fan. First owner to pay himself a salary. Penny-pinching egomaniac. If you had a free seat in the directors box, would you not be there every week. Not last year no.....I thought they sent naughty kids there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 13 hours ago, useless said: Very good, but his title is 'President Emeritus'. sounds like a Greek political leader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazvfc Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I'll just say this once and finally. If that old git Ellis had of had his way before he was ousted by bendall then we would not have won the league or European cup as he wanted to become chairman and get rid of Saunders. Thank god that man failed! Don't like him never have and I've met him personally the condescending little s**t and made my opinion even stronger after what he said to me! K-nob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 48 minutes ago, nazvfc said: Don't like him never have and I've met him personally the condescending little s**t and made my opinion even stronger after what he said to me! K-nob Doug called you a "K-nob"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Deep down we are all k-nobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 On 19/06/2016 at 23:44, John said: Pat Matthews was the one who took control of the club and put the bulk of the money into it in 1968. He brought in other investors and directors one of whom was the one that you have mentioned. That man came to us from Small Heath, tried to takeover Wolves in the early 80s and now has a stand named after him at Villa Park. That man took millions more out of the club than he ever put into it, rewarded himself very well for the time he spent at the club and referred to Villa fans as being merely "men of the terraces". John Lerwill said that he is "not defending everything" that our President Emeritus has done. I will not be defending anything that he has done. But that is water under the bridge and we now have a new owner. My focus is on his potential to prove a far better custodian than the two that went before him were. Well said, John. I think we have a duty not to allow history to be re-written. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 If we do buy other clubs and after Wyness's quotes it seems more likely <<<< I wonder what fans of those clubs will think of potentially having to have the Villa name incorporated into their name. I mean I presume most of us wouldn't have liked it if say Red Bull bought and incorporated their name into ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 minute ago, useless said: If we do buy other clubs and after Wyness's quotes it seems more likely <<<< I wonder what fans of those clubs will think of potentially having to have the Villa name incorporated into their name. I mean I presume most of us wouldn't have liked it if say Red Bull bought and incorporated their name into ours. Obviously try not to do it to clubs with a lot of history. Look at Man City. NYCFC is a brand new club. Melbourne City took over a club that was 4 years old, Melbourne Heart. Heart fans sooked about it a bit but if we're being real, they were 4 years old. Nobody cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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