Mark Albrighton Posted September 23, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, villaglint said: For someone who spent their whole live campaigning for Brexit he sure doesn’t seem to understand much about Brexit. Hasn’t he basically got everything he wanted so far? He’ll say it’s not his Brexit, then go and live abroad and his supporters will blame everyone else. He’s said as much previously. Actually typing that he’d leave was quite enjoyable. Just adds to the idea that’s been previously mentioned here and elsewhere that those in charge of pushing the idea of leaving the EU didn’t really think it would happen so hadn’t fully considered the subsequent fall out. There’s that Oscar Wilde quote - there are two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it. Nige has kinda achieved both scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Outstanding. So how do you get a "Kent Border Permit". Just tick a box to say that you should have one: This whole fiasco would be hilarious if so many people weren't going to see their lives ruined by it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 hours ago, ChrisVillan said: Hello everybody. What are the benefits of Brexit, please? Thank you. You can deport EU citizens you don't like. Previously you needed a good reason (e.g. they're unemployed). You can subsidize any company you like. Previously you could only offer subsidies to industries (e.g. all solar panels manufacturers) not companies. This means you can set up Big British Government Solar Panel Company, subsidize it, and then fight any battles in the WTO rather than in the relatively free trading EU system. The EU has a tendency to choose the high-cost high-quality model when it comes to regulations, e.g. tracing your steak to the farmer. This has benefits but, if you want a low-regulation low-cost model, you can do it now. Assuming you're happy enough with trade barriers to EU members, you can trade much easier with the United States. See also the low-regulation point above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 11 hours ago, villaglint said: For someone who spent their whole live campaigning for Brexit he sure doesn’t seem to understand much about Brexit. Hasn’t he basically got everything he wanted so far? I'm not sure the staunchest, gloomiest doomsayer would have predicted customs checks in Kent. Can you imagine the howls of project fear if people had claimed this was happening 6 months ago, never mind 5 years ago? I've got to hand it to this government, just when you think you've seen them at their worst, they **** things up just a bit more. But still they'll hide behind "the will of the people", and people have invested so much of their personality into becoming "Brexiteers" that they'll lap it up. Nobody voted for this. It was never an option. Yet here we are. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 Customs checks in kent will obviously be the EU's fault. Or more likely, Remainers. We didn't believe enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Enda said: You can deport EU citizens you don't like. Previously you needed a good reason (e.g. they're unemployed). You can subsidize any company you like. Previously you could only offer subsidies to industries (e.g. all solar panels manufacturers) not companies. This means you can set up Big British Government Solar Panel Company, subsidize it, and then fight any battles in the WTO rather than in the relatively free trading EU system. The EU has a tendency to choose the high-cost high-quality model when it comes to regulations, e.g. tracing your steak to the farmer. This has benefits but, if you want a low-regulation low-cost model, you can do it now. Assuming you're happy enough with trade barriers to EU members, you can trade much easier with the United States. See also the low-regulation point above. As my Nan used to regularly say. Can you do a bit of shopping for me but I don't want any of that you know...quality. She lived to 100 to be fair despite eating the cheapest "food" money could buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 24, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I'm not sure the staunchest, gloomiest doomsayer would have predicted customs checks in Kent. Can you imagine the howls of project fear if people had claimed this was happening 6 months ago, never mind 5 years ago? Hmmm I don't think this is true tbh. It's been said very often that Kent will just become a big truck park. This is just a big truck park with permits and ANPR. One thing that does make me wonder though is, how will the people of Kent get supplies? Might be easier to go to Calais... 59% of Kent absolutely deserve this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chindie Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, snowychap said: You have to appreciate a blunt response at times. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LondonLax Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, snowychap said: You need an Australian to tell it like it is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 This is really good on the Kent border and associated logistics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 7 hours ago, villaglint said: As my Nan used to regularly say. Can you do a bit of shopping for me but I don't want any of that you know...quality. She lived to 100 to be fair despite eating the cheapest "food" money could buy. That’s impressive but I’m pretty sure I’d be dead now if I was still living off the pack of 10 value fishfingers from Kwik Save I used to buy when a student. They cost 12p, and i was in uni from 2002-2005 for reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KenjiOgiwara Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) Have to admit. I actually had to google to see if you still were in the EU. I've lost track of this stuff completely. You're in, you're out. You're like Norway, but you're not. Something about Ireland, but it doesn't work. Very very confusing to me Edited September 25, 2020 by KenjiOgiwara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted September 25, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Have to admit. I actually had to google to see if you still were in the EU. I've lost track of this stuff completely. You're in, you're out. You're like Norway, but you're not. Something about Ireland, but it doesn't work. Very very confusing to me You are not alone! Along with everyone in the UK and the rest of Europe, I genuinely believe no one has actually a complete picture of what is going on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Have to admit. I actually had to google to see if you still were in the EU. I've lost track of this stuff completely. You're in, you're out. You're like Norway, but you're not. Something about Ireland, but it doesn't work. Very very confusing to me It’s really quite simple 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: It’s really quite simple Don't Northern Ireland and Gibraltar need adding to the middle of the diagram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, ml1dch said: Don't Northern Ireland and Gibraltar need adding to the middle of the diagram? I did consider adding Northern Ireland and Sealand but it was going to make the writing too small. In haste, I forgot about Gibraltar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, chrisp65 said: In haste, I forgot about Gibraltar. You'd often be forgiven for thinking the UK government has as well, so you're not alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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